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D_Fosse wrote:
...but isnt the .jpeg extension the real smoking gun here? Not the file name?
That Apple Photos sends a raw file to Photoshop as a rendered file (JPEG or TIFF) is not news. That’s how it’s always worked. Photos will send a rendered file to Photoshop if you:
- Drag the image from Apple Photos, drop in Photoshop.
- Select the image in Apple Photos, and choose Image > Edit With > Adobe Photoshop.
- In Photoshop, choose File > Open, select Photos from the macOS sidebar, select photo.
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"I run a script with image processor on the batch I have open, in order to save them to a new folder, now that they are edited."
Can you post the setting you set in Image Processor script dialog. If in section 1 you selected a folder to process please include the file list in that folder. Image processor open image files in that folder. image processor does not create images to be processed. The first part of the name mane you posted looks like a UUID that some automation may have generated in its processing to create a unique name for a file. That is not anything the Image processor would do. It just add a suffix to the current document name.
The image Processor UUID is "1F9021B1-5045-42E1-AE2A-7E504FAA8D50" not the UUID in your document's name.
How were your files edited that process may have created the document "97D1EF45-50C9-488C-A301-74E003CAE767_1_100_o" in your folder.
A script can not change a document name that it opens a script can save a file with any valid name. A opened document object name has a read only attribute a script can only read the document object name. It can not change it.
Image processor does not have output file name options suffix will be added to current document's name to make the output file name unique.
Image Processor Pro does have output file naming options none of the option is to add a UUID.
How are the files being opened from Photos into Photoshop and loaded into Image Processor? Are they being dragged from Photos and dropped into Photoshop, or do you select them in Photos and then choose Image > Edit With > Adobe Photoshop, or another way?
Next, it will help to understand what is really happening. It looks like the long name is not from Photoshop, but from Apple Photos itself. Like many database-oriented organizers, Apple Photos assigns a private filename to the original photo it stores inside its Photos Library (an area we typically never see as normal users). For some reason, that is the name Photoshop is getting, instead of the real file name. But if I open the same raw file from Photos into other applications, it shows the real file name. So there is still something different happening between Photos and Photoshop.
The last mystery is that I originally saw the same thing as you: Opening from Photos into Photoshop using any method would show the Photos internal file name, not the original raw file name. But then, after a while, it started working correctly, and I have no explanation for this. The only theory I had was it might be because of my testing; after opening the same raw file from Photos into various different applications (Apple Preview, Apple QuickTime Player, Affinity Photo, which all showed the real file name), it suddenly started showing the correct file name in Photoshop. So maybe that’s something to try: Open the image from Photos into other applications, then come back to Photoshop and see if it works any better. Because now I can’t get it to show the Photos internal filename in Photoshop, only the right name.
If this problem persists, it might be worth filing an problem report in the Bugs section of this community.
One more thing: Your original is a raw file, but notice that the filename in Photoshop ends in .jpeg so that is what’s getting passed to Photoshop. Other applications seem to get TIFFs from Apple Photos. That’s another weird difference. If you want to preserve raw quality and raw-stage edits that get passed to Photoshop, it would be better to organize using Adobe Bridge (or Lightroom), edit using Adobe Camera Raw, and send photos from Bridge or Camera Raw to Photoshop.
I should be clear that I was not saying you should permanently go through another program like Preview. I was only hoping that it would help clear up what was going on through Photoshop.
svgjen wrote:
I click "File" then "Open" then "Photos" then I choose the photos.
OK. That helps a lot because I was not doing it that way. That’s a perfectly legitimate and convenient way to do it, although not as common because many Mac users don’t even know Photoshop can import directly from the macOS Media Library.
I tried it that way and, unfortunately, I am getting the same problem with the filename, and I can’t figure out how to prevent it this time. It looks like there might be some problem in how Photoshop is going through the macOS Media Library to Photos. I don’t know how to fix that.
Update: I just tested this by importing from Photos in the Media sidebar of the Open command in other applications, including Affinity Photo and Preview, and guess what: They are also displaying the private Photos filename, not the real camera filename.
Because it is happening in multiple non-Adobe applications, too, I now think opening Photos images through the macOS Media Library might be broken in macOS, not necessarily in Photoshop. I am running macOS 10.15.7.
I use windows and copy my camera's image file from my Compact Flash cards and SD cards using a USB card reader. The Image file name on the Compact Flash Card and SD Cards are the file name I see in my windows NTFS file system Hard Disk folder I copied the file into. Photoshop does not change the names when Photoshop these files unless its a Camera RAW file. Photoshop does not support RAW files it supports image files not mosaic sensor data. So Photoshop uses its ACR plug-in to convert the RAW File data into a Photoshop Document. This new document will be named by ACR or PS not sure which. The name will be Image Name.RAW extension. Same as the RAW file on disk its a new document it has not been saved. Photoshop can NOT save Camera RAW file. It can only save image files. So when the new document is saved the document name will be changer to the files nane saved. However if I open the same raw file again ACR or Photoshop will general a new document name for the new document Image Name + some suffix number. Here I opened LO2G5037.CR2 three time in a row on Windows 10 version 2004 and Photoshop 2020 version 21.2.3 and Through ACR 12.4.
svgjen is using an import workflow which, although not well known among Mac users, is legitimate and supported by Photoshop. Specifically: In Photoshop choose File > Open, and scroll the sidebar until you find the Media category. That lists the three media library types made available to Mac applications: Music, Photos, and Movies. If you select one, notice the contents of the file picker: It is not the file system. It is the standard user-facing UI for the macOS database for that media type.
It’s a really convenient way to give applications direct access to the edited versions of media from Apple Photos, Music, and iMovie, without requiring any manual export-then-import steps. (Kind of the reverse of sending them from Photos to Photoshop.) This database UI always gives your application the current version of whatever you selected.
This access to macOS media databases through the Open dialog box sidebar is available to applications (such as Photoshop) that don’t offer a direct route to the macOS Media Library in their own UIs. This method did not work in older versions of Photoshop, but it’s worked fine for several major versions now. If Photoshop did not support this, I think Photoshop would not show it in the Open dialog. There are other Adobe applications that do not show it. And in the past, at least, it worked fine. Today, that macOS API appears broken even in non-Adobe applications, as I saw in Affinity Photo. That UI is supposed to provide the real file name to any application.
Because you’re seeing the correct filename when you start from Photos, maybe that’s a workaround. Instead of using the Open dialog box sidebar import method from Photoshop, try selecting them in Photos and choose Edit > Edit with Photoshop.
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