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Unable to nudge channels

New Here ,
Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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I'm working on a project where I need to nudge and otherwise manipulate the individual channels in an RGB image. I've had the issue I'm about to describe happen before, but I've never a) been able to figure out what triggers it nor b) been able to resolve it once it happens.

 

Initially, after creating the image, I'm able to go to the Channels palette and use the move tool to move that channel. Or I can use the Transform tool to rotate or resize just that channel. At some point though, I am suddenly unable to manipulate the individual channels. I then get, for instance the following error:

 

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The error message implies I can't move the 'data' because the target doesn't include all composite channels - but I don't want to move all the composite channels - I want to move just the, for instance, green channel. And just minutes before I was doing just that. I'm assuming here that 'the target' is the selected channel?

 

What am I missing? Thank you!

 

I've looked around and see that some people are able to resolve this by making sure they aren't editing in Quick Mask mode. I've checked that...

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Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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Is there an active Selection? 

 

I recommend you abandon this approach and use Smatz Objects that only affect single Channels. 

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Thank you for your suggestion - it's an interesting one. And perhaps it's the only solution. I hate to think I'd want to do somejust a certain way just because that's how I've always done it but.. 

 

a) When I first copy the data into each of the channels I can nudge, roteate, resize them exactly as I want.

 

b) Each of the channels are just that - the RGB components of a single image, so having to deal with a smart object seems to introduce unnecceesary complkexity for no added benefit - I just want to manipulate the RGB channels indiviually

 

and, of course, I've worked with these images for 20 years and this used to 'just work'.

 

I thought maybe I was breaking this when I would rotate (as opposed to nudge) on of the channels, but I just tested and this does not break it. I'll keep poking at this.

 

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Jun 11, 2021 Jun 11, 2021

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Could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Options Bar, …) visible? 

Is the Layer a Background Layer? Is there a Selection? 

 


b) Each of the channels are just that - the RGB components of a single image, so having to deal with a smart object seems to introduce unnecceesary complkexity for no added benefit - I just want to manipulate the RGB channels indiviually


Whar if you need to do some touch up on the original image or exchange the image altogether? 

Or want to transform, scale, filter one Channel mutiple times without unnecessary image degredation? 

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Jun 12, 2021 Jun 12, 2021

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b) Each of the channels are just that - the RGB components of a single image,

I would describe it the other way round: You apparently want to edit three incarnations of the same images, each affecting but one Channel. 

 

Since Smart Objects were introduced in Photoshop CS2 many Photoshop users seem to have displayed a reluctance to use them and in the absence of Smart Filters it may have been slightly more understandable back then. 

And employing practices of non-destructive image editing (not just Smart Objects, but Layer Masks instead of erasing, Adjustment Layers instead of destructive Adjustments etc.) may not be strictly necessary with each image one edits, but as far as I am concerned erring on the side of caution seems preferable in image editing. 

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Jun 20, 2021 Jun 20, 2021

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I definitely need to learn more about smart objects. And I will write a more detailed reply when I get back to my computer. But I would still love to know why this error comes up, only sometimes, when I'm trying to manipulate channels in an RGB image that I have created by pasting a distinct greyscale image into each of the RGB channels of the file in question.

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