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Adobe should make opt-out to all of gen ai feature for users.

Explorer ,
Aug 29, 2024 Aug 29, 2024

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Not only photoshop, all of softwares by adobe.

Many artists who using adobe products don't want to using & supporting generative ai at all.

we have rights to opt-out from these things like generative ai tools in software, unwanted ads and nofitications.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 30, 2024 Aug 30, 2024

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Maybe you want opt-in? That's where you have to choose to use them? Opt-out would be tools being automatically applied to your image and you having to decline. Tools are already opt-in. You have to manually choose to use them.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 30, 2024 Aug 30, 2024

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I'm for this. I don't mind opt-out, it could be a checkbox in Preferences to disable Firefly. The point is that some of us feel things are crossing an ethical line nowadays, and we prefer to stay on the other side of that line.

 

You can choose to not use the tools, but that line is pretty blurred by now.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 30, 2024 Aug 30, 2024

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Maybe just labeling which tools and filters use AI and which don't would be enough.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 30, 2024 Aug 30, 2024

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I'm guessing that there is no issue with AI trained features such as select subject or with content aware fill?

 

Don't Adobe already prefix the word Generative?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 31, 2024 Aug 31, 2024

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Content aware fill is fine, because it uses data already in the image. It's predictable. It doesn't pull in anything external.

 

There is a very clearly visible red line here, and it's where the algorithm uses outside data. I don't have enough technical insight to know how Adobe Sensei is different from Firefly, but there is a clear functional distinction that is easy to see. It's the generative part that I don't like and don't want.

 

Ethically, I think this is very clear cut. It's about passing off work as your own, when you didn't actually do it.

 

Obviously, there's a whole range of advanced tools that let you alter an image substantially. That's fine, that's why you use Photoshop in the first place. Any experienced photographer knows that a photo is not reality, it's an interpretation of reality. There's a lot of leeway there. But you're in charge, you decide what the finished result is, and you have to do the work to get there.

 

Oh, and BTW, it would be very easy. Just a checkbox that yanks out the virtual internet cable.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 31, 2024 Aug 31, 2024

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Adobe Acrobat has a preference setting to turn off generative AI. I'd love to see the same ability in Photoshop.

 

Turn off generative AI features in Acrobat or Acrobat Reader desktop

  • Close any open files. Then, navigate to Preferences > Generative AI.
  • To turn off the generative AI features, deselect Enable generative AI features in Acrobat, and then select OK.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/disable-generative-ai.html

 

 

I've upvoted the idea.

 

Jane

 

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LEGEND ,
Sep 02, 2024 Sep 02, 2024

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Photoshop is a creative tool. Acrobat Reader goes on most corporate desktops. I'm not surprised that as a business decision, Adobe included that killswitch. 

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Community Expert ,
Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

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I like the idea of having a personal choice.

Lee- Graphic Designer, Print Specialist, Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Sep 03, 2024 Sep 03, 2024

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I have added my vote, this appears to be part of the Firefly Terms of Use for the Beta version:

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-beta-discussions/generative-ai-in-the-remove-tool-for-photo...

 

  1. Accept the Firefly Terms of Use: If you haven't already, agree to the Firefly Terms of Use that appears.
     

    •   The Mode setting in the Remove Tool is set based on the Terms of Use acceptance.
       Manually change the Mode setting in the options bar as needed:
          • Auto (May use generative AI) - default if TOU was accepted
          • Always use generative AI
          • Never use generative AI - default if TOU was declined 

 

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New Here ,
Sep 27, 2024 Sep 27, 2024

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I don't know which of their engineers thought that leaving a generative fill window permanently in the middle of the image would be a good idea. But really, it's completely incoherent.

 

They make all kinds of interfaces to be able to hang the windows where you want them, but strangely enough it's impossible. It drives me mad! Image editing software with a window right in the middle of working space ! (abuse removed)
 
Do you need an explanatory drawing?

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LEGEND ,
Sep 27, 2024 Sep 27, 2024

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Just hide the contextual toolbar.

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Community Expert ,
Sep 27, 2024 Sep 27, 2024

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@kenzo_2165 

 

It's called the Contextual Task Bar, as it changes depending on what you are doing. You can close it, pin it to a specific location, or reopen it (Window menu). Details here:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/using-tools.html

 

I see that someone merged your post with a longer thread.

 

Jane

 

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New Here ,
Oct 02, 2024 Oct 02, 2024

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But I'm well aware of how it works, thank you! I'm just not trying to hide it because I'm using these functions. My wish is that it can find a place in one of the menus, for example it could be very well on a single line at the very bottom of the window, even if it changes depending on the tool you're using. That's where I'd put it if I was given the option of hanging it, but that's not the case. Maybe there's a way of attaching it to a menu, but I don't think so. The fact that it's wandering around and I have to move it all the time and that it's in the middle of the action, I find problematic.

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Community Expert ,
Oct 02, 2024 Oct 02, 2024

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@kenzo_2165 wrote: Maybe there's a way of attaching it to a menu, but I don't think so. The fact that it's wandering around and I have to move it all the time and that it's in the middle of the action, I find problematic

 

I'm confused Kenzo. The Contextual Task Bar is already in the Window menu, and you were already told that you can pin it on your workspace so you don't have to keep moving it. Can you clarify your issue?

 

Jane

 

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LEGEND ,
Oct 02, 2024 Oct 02, 2024

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The Contextual Task Bar has a "Pin bar position" option which sounds like what you want.

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