P: Duplicate frame markers only showing on one clip in 24.1

[mcx#5000]

A new bug with 24.1: Duplicate frames markers in the timeline is only showing on one of the two clips with duplicate frames (rather than both). It seems to be showing only the new clip, not the original.

[mattchristensen]

@mcx#5000 Could you share a screenshot of what you're seeing? It seems to be working for me, in 24.1:

[Stan Jones]

@mcx#5000, I am not seeing a problem.

I added 2 of Clip 1 and 3 of Clip 2. All show duplicate markers - Clip 1 in Blue and Clip 2 in Red.

Stan

[Editor1961]

It's pretty simple. The Duplicate Frame Marker is not showing up until you split the clip. Plus, once you've split the clip, it only shows the indicator on the incoming, split clip. I've attached two screen shots to illustrate. 

It's a simple edit sequence. No multiclips. Just 3 or 4 video / audio layers.

One note - the markers did show up after closing and re-opening Premiere.

PP V24.1

Mac OS Sonoma 14.2

Studio Ultra

Apple M2 Ultra

GPU

32TB RAID - Thunderbolt

Apple ProRes LT

  

 

 

[Zeynep Irem5E36]

After update to 24.1 my show duplicate frame markers became  unreliable.

sometimes not updated before I close and open back the project. sometimes when It duplicate it will no show any duplicate at all. 

[Stan Jones]

Upvoted.

See these other two threads:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/duplicate-frame-markers-only-showing-on-one-clip-in...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/duplicate-frame-markers-are-not-work-properly/idi-p...

Following your comment about splitting, I did the following with these results:

Show duplicate frame markers is on.

• Single clip sequence on timeline, split the clip. No duplicate markers show.
• Add the same clip to the end of the original clip. Both parts of the original split clip, and the new clip, show duplicate markers. However, when I expand the timeline (\ key), the duplicate marker only shows on the part of the new clip that showed before expanding. Undoing and redoing the expansion makes no difference. Nor does changing sequences, closing the project and reopening, nor closing and reopening PR.
• Change the size of timeline so there is extra space and add a third instance of the original clip to the end. Everything (correctly) now shows as duplicate with the duplicate markers showing on the entirety of each clip.

Yes, something odd is going on!

Stan

[Stan Jones]

Upvoted.

See these two threads:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/duplicate-frame-markers-only-showing-on-one-clip-in...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/bug-report-duplicate-frame-marker-not-showing-up/id...

Stan

[Stan Jones]

Upvoted. See my post in this new thread where he mentions splitting a clip:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/bug-report-duplicate-frame-marker-not-showing-up/id...

@mattchristensen, odd one!

Stan

[Editor1961]

Thanks, Stan. It's good to have another user verify some part of what I'm seeing. When I get a chance, I'm going to duplicate your process and see if I get the same results. Thanks again.

[Benjamin Hunt - KJP]

Upvoted, having same issue. Markers show properly on application restart.

[Abraham Offline]

Upvoted. Not sure what causes it to disappear at times and show up other times.

Versions 24.0.3 and 24.1 contains this bug.

If it helps, I tested on iMac Pro 2017 on Ventura, Mac Studio M1 Ultra on Sonoma, and PC on Windows 10.
ProRes, h264, wav files all affected as well.

[Comninellis]

Having very similar problems. Typically only the second of two duplicate clips shows the duplicate frame marker. I have noticed that zooming in sometimes changes this. Restarting computer and/or Premiere does not solve the problem.

I did not have this problem in Premiere 2023. 

I started this project in 2023 and updated it when we upgraded Premiere, so I did wonder if this issue specific to projects that migrated from one version to another. However, it sounds like it is more widespread that this.

Below are my system specs:

:desktop_computer:️ COMPUTER HARDWARE:
Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900 2.40 GHz
Installed RAM 64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

:floppy_disk: OPERATING SYSTEM:
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 23H2
Installed on ‎1/‎8/‎2024
OS build 22631.3007
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22681.1000.0

:movie_camera: PREMIERE VERSION:
Version 24.1.0 (Build 85)

[Comninellis]

Having very similar problems. Typically only the second of two duplicate clips shows the duplicate frame marker. I have noticed that zooming in sometimes changes this. Restarting computer and/or Premiere does not solve the problem.

I did not have this problem in Premiere 2023. 

I started this project in 2023 and updated it when we upgraded Premiere, so I did wonder if this issue specific to projects that migrated from one version to another. However, it sounds like it is more widespread that this.

Below are my system specs:

COMPUTER HARDWARE:
Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900 2.40 GHz
Installed RAM 64.0 GB (63.7 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

OPERATING SYSTEM:
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 23H2
Installed on ‎1/‎8/‎2024
OS build 22631.3007
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22681.1000.0

PREMIERE VERSION:
Version 24.1.0 (Build 85)

[Adam5C21]

Not happening with mp4 and mov files but is happening with mxf files.

[joshp64248108]

As Adam said, I'm only seeing this problem with my mxf files shot in the field. But if that same mxf is part of a multicam, then it displays the duplicate markers properly. 

File Path: U:\.....\Tight FX6\PRIVATE\XDROOT\Clip\C0958.MXF
Type: MXF
File Size: 44.60 GB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Frame Rate: 23.976
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 24-bit - 8 Channels
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - 8 Channels
Total Duration: 01:03:03:12
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
Alpha: None
Color Space: Rec. 709
Color Space Override: Off
Input LUT: None

MXF File details:
Wrapper type: MXF OP1a (type: SingleItem SinglePackage MultiTrack Stream Internal)
File generated by: Sony, Mem (2.00)
AVCI 100
Bitstream Format: Sony

[joshp64248108]

Update: Just noticed it's sometimes happening on wav music files too.

[courtneyware]

This is happening to me as well - on both WAV and MXF files. Premiere 24.1

[diegoindraccolo]

I also have this issue with .mov (422 proxy files) Moreover if I delete the clip with no duplicate frames indicators, the indicator doesn't disappear from the remaining clip, wrongly signalling that there are duplicate frames when there are none

[James248174044ujz]

Same. ProResLT. Not indicating other clip and stays flagged if i delete the unflagged clip.

[James248174044ujz]

@mattchristensen 

[mattchristensen]

Thanks everyone, that extra information is helpful. We think we've identified what is going on and are working on a fix. The format of your media shouldn't matter.

[gareth5E6B]

is this proboem sorted yet ? so anoyong that adobe premier is so expensive yet so many problems continue to crop up.

[Dogfood]

Same problem - super annoying, going to try the version before. 

[Joel5EB7]

24.2.1 have this bug also

[Joel5EB7]

Same bug on 24.2.1 with MXF

[kinoks]

Same problem here, for months now.