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Major lag with with the Premiere Pro Interface (Timeline, Bins, Resizing Windows etc.)

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Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Premiere's timeline and interface in general is just a lot slower than other NLEs and other apps like Blender. I use Premiere almost every single day so you don't really notice it until you open another NLE on your machine and see how bad its fallen behind on interface smoothness. 

 

Here is a 60FPS capture of me scrolling through similar timelines in Premiere and Resolve. I cropped out the top just to focus on the timeline smoothness/sluggishness. 

 

 

Premiere takes 4frames to update the scroll and often flickers waveforms and other icons as it struggles to keep up with a smooth framerate. 

 

Resolve's timeline renders at 60FPS. Every frame there is an update being sent to the screen. This is typical of any modern app when it it's unterface is properly omptimized to run on the GPU. 

 

It's not just the timeline its scrolling through a bin, its resizing windows etc. It all renders at about a 1/4 of as fast as it should in 2023. 

 

This stuff matters. Premiere causes eye strain because its basically it runs basically like a seizure inducing slide show. I am more tired after using Premiere than after using something that runs at a smooth consistent frame rate. Its distracting and takes you out of what you are trying to do. You make more mistakes when things aren't udating quickly enough. It generally slows you down. Things should not lag 8 frames behind your mouse with modern 4ghz multi-core setups and dedicated graphics! 

 

Adobe please find a way to make Premiere run as smoothly as your compretitors. Premiere needs some version of "project butter" across all its apps like Android did back in 2012. It's time. 

 

I have been and will probably remain a loyal customer, but the Premire lifers would love some quality of life updates and not just a superficial coat of paint on the interface. 

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Editing and playback , Graphics , Performance or Stability , User experience or interface

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Jan 25, 2023 Jan 25, 2023

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Ok so since this is a now a new bug report now and I have some downtime here are my specific system specs:

 

Windows 11 

Threadriper 3960X 24-Core 

128GB Ram

Nvidia 2080ti 11GB GPU 528.24 Driver

Mix of SSDs / Raid / External drives

2 Dispalys  2560x1600 display (100% Scale) and 1 (3840x2160 150%Scale)

  • This causes me a lot of interface issues in Premiere but not sure if related.  

 

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 25, 2023 Jan 25, 2023

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I agree, and I am upvoting!

Kevin

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Jan 25, 2023 Jan 25, 2023

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If you use NVidia GPU, try to disable HAGS (Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling) in GPU driver settings, may help.. Second option is to turn off Mercury Transmit

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Jan 25, 2023 Jan 25, 2023

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Appreciate you reaching out, but both of these settings are turned off. 

 

It is my suspicion that Premiere and After Effects interface code, (things outside of the program monitor/timeline rendering etc) runs almost entirely on the CPU and this causes a lot of jank. It's not so much a bug as it is the state of how the program operates on many machines.   

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 26, 2023 Jan 26, 2023

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Which driver? The last few have had stability issues. Rolling all the way back to 517.40 has worked well for some.

 

Kevin

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Jan 27, 2023 Jan 27, 2023

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@Kevin-Monahan I think of this more of a general issue, not one that is tied to a specific driver. Premiere's interface just has a lot of jank or dropped frames across the board. Easiest way to see this is to "~" a bin with 100+clips in and and try to scroll down. Premiere's interface can't render a spreadsheet at over 3FPS which I find unacceptable in 2023. It's been this way on every machine I've used in the last 10 years. I want smooth scrolling and waveforms to update when you move them in the timeline!

 

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Jan 27, 2023 Jan 27, 2023

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Just came here looking for exactly this issue. I'm moving back to PrPro from 6 years in Resolve and finding the sluggishness of the UI is driving me mad. For example when I grab a clip to drag, my cursor moves and then a few milliseconds later the clip moves. It's impossible to get a precise and quick move. I do use keyboard shortcuts to nudge for precise cuts but let's say I want to grab a clip and move it out of the way for a min to try something else, the UI is slowing be down because I have to wait for it to update while I'm already thinking of what my next action is. 

The timeline playhead is also behind what I'm seeing in the program monitor and when I press the space bar it takes a few frames for the playhead to stop, which is after where I may need to add a cut and I have to use the arrow keys to move the playhead back a few frames. 

These are just some of the most glaring UI delays I'm experiencing. 

My System spec is:
MacPro (2019) 3.2 GHz 16 Core Xeon W
2 AMD Vega II Cards with 64GB GPU
384 GB 29933MHz DDR4
Blackmagic Ultrastudio Mini
2 Desktop UI monitors

@Kevin-Monahan Waving in your direction. This is Kris, from the Old Atlanta Cutters UG and OG Creative Cow Forums. 🙂

 

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