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P: Morph cut - Analyzing in Background never completes

Community Beginner ,
Oct 10, 2015 Oct 10, 2015

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I have a simple headshot cutting to the same head, same everything a few seconds later.

All other transitions work find. I try morph cut and see 'Analyzing in background.' Never see sign of progress - should I see it chewing through frames somehow?

I have gone to project settings. Tried both rendering settings. One thing - When I do GPU acceleration my still frames look like garbage - example:

http://www.screencast.com/t/rPiWL6yL

Software acceleration looks fine. No idea if these items are related.

Have run through all preferences. Don't see anything that might be turned off. BTW - working with MBP 15" late 2013. Latest OS.

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Adobe Employee , Jul 23, 2024 Jul 23, 2024

Hello mbpm, and community,

I'm Kevin from support, one of the moderators here. Thanks for the bug report.

 

I apologize for the issues this effect sometimes causes. A product team member would be better at explaining this, but in my own experience using it, it's not a new effect and was created when certain workflows didn't exist yet. Reading through here, nesting can assist with legacy scaling issues, and transcoding can help with other unforeseen issues. The thread contains some other really g

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Adobe Employee , Aug 15, 2024 Aug 15, 2024

Hi @wisaq,

I read that you are having trouble with the morph cut effect. Please provide the community with more information so we can help. I'm sorry for the frustration. You can take steps to ensure the effect works much better, such as using a simple background, short clips, and avoiding scaling with clips vs. sequence settings (choose to nest). I hope the ideas help.

 

See:

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Community Expert ,
Oct 10, 2015 Oct 10, 2015

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For the red stripes: turn off MPE hardware (ist a know issue with El Capitan)

For the Morph cut you might want to read this: Adobe Premiere Pro Help | Troubleshooting the Morph Cut transition in Premiere Pro

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 10, 2015 Oct 10, 2015

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Stripes - As mentioned, I figured that one out.

Troubleshooting doc - thanks saw it. Mine really is a talking head. My two shots are just truncating a locked off camera. The problem is not that it takes a long time to complete. It doesn't seem to start. Am looking for some evidence that this analysis actually happens.

Thanks tho.

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Explorer ,
Feb 22, 2016 Feb 22, 2016

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I have same issue. Can someone solve this?

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New Here ,
Oct 18, 2016 Oct 18, 2016

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Hello,

Morph cut on Premiere is not working, it analyzes in the background indefinitely. Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so, how did you resolve this error?

Thanks.

J

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Adobe Employee ,
Oct 18, 2016 Oct 18, 2016

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Hey Jonathan,

A few things to try:

  1. Modifying the duration of the morph cut transition

  2. Clear your caches/preferences.

  3. Create a new project and  import the old project into that.

Let us know how that goes.

Peter Garaway

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New Here ,
Oct 19, 2016 Oct 19, 2016

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I had that same issue.

To most effectively use morph cut you literally have to :

Export the first clip to morph, export the second clip to morph, import the 2 new separate files and apply morph cut.

Adobe Premiere should do this automatically, however it runs into one of two issues.

Issue 1: The source file is too large. (my source files are 500mb - 25gb)

Issue 2: The MORPH CUT is being applied to the same clip, which causes the ANALYZING IN BACKGROUND error.

The best way to solve it is to reduce the source file size, export and reimport your clips, and morph between two different source files.

Adobe should do this automatically, but until then this is what we have to do. It's inefficient and redundant - I'm using a Morph Cut between two cuts, I should not have to cut before and after the morph cut in extreme attempts to reduce my source file size.

Michael James Webb

310 Digital Sales And Service

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 20, 2016 Oct 20, 2016

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I encountered the same problem today while working with subclips. Everything was working as expected after replacing the subclip with the original media in the timeline. I'm not sure whether this is a bug or a restriction on working with subclips. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 11, 2017 Jun 11, 2017

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Hi. After applying a morph cut transition on two videos and exporting, there is still the line in the middle. I don´t know why, but I have to get rid of that as soon as possible.

This is a first time I have a problem with a morph cut transition like this. Thanks for replies.Screenshot_1.png

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Adobe Employee ,
Jun 11, 2017 Jun 11, 2017

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Hi Trickooo,

It might be the kanji character behind the head. You want a very simple background, that artwork makes it not so simple.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 13, 2017 Jun 13, 2017

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But the camera is static so I hoped the morph cut can render that. Nah, thanks for reply

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Community Expert ,
Jun 13, 2017 Jun 13, 2017

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Hi Trickooo-

Just to confirm the "line in the middle" you are talking about, is it the "Analyzing in background" line? If so, was it there before export?

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 16, 2017 Jun 16, 2017

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HI, yes. The line was there.

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Aug 11, 2017 Aug 11, 2017

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Hi Trickooo,

Were you able to resolve this or do you still need help?

Let us know.

Thanks,

Rameez

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 14, 2017 Aug 14, 2017

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Hi Rameez.

Yes I resolve this. There was problem in the graphic card. I had to call to technicians from Dell to check up my laptop. After that he discovered, the laptop is not working properly since they made it. So they gave me a new one and now everything is going smooth

Regards

Jakub

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Aug 14, 2017 Aug 14, 2017

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Thanks for letting us know!

Best,

Rameez

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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Hi, I've been having this problem for a few months now and couldn't find any solutions.

I've been working on a fairly large project within the last few months consisting of 21 final sequences in total. I've applied multiple morph cuts to the final edits and they look fine in Premiere, but when I export them (either using AME or straight out of Premiere) the "Analyzing in Background" banner is burned into the export. It's incredibly inconsistent so I don't know how to troubleshoot it. Sometimes it burns into the file, but then I'll re-export it using the exact same settings, and it works fine.

I can say that I've had more success exporting straight out of Premiere rather than using AME but again, it's super inconsistent and I have to double check everything and often re-export.

Given the scope of this project and the fact that these sequences need to go through multiple revisions, this issue is becoming unnecessarily time consuming (especially when I can't use a render queue). I was curious if this is a known bug, or if there are work-arounds via project settings or something that I can use to fix this issue.

I've done a couple of similar projects earlier this year, and late last year and didn't have this issue at all.

I'm using the latest and greatest in terms of Premiere versions (v12.0)- I just upgraded yesterday in hopes of this being fixed / solved but was sadly disappointed.

Here are my computer specs if it helps at all:

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014)

macOS Version 10.12.6

Processor: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory: 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB

                 Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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I've not had the problem but - you could try setting your preview codec to be the same as your render codec and clicking the "use Preview" box on render. This will speed up your renders as well.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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This definitely works, but it seems more like a band-aid rather than an actual fix. The previews that Premiere generates are great for viewing edits in real-time, but I'd rather have the final exports for these projects in full resolution.

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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Right - that's why you set your previews to your render codec. When you do that the render is actually a stitch of the render files and goes much faster. There is no loss of resolution when you work this way.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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This would be great- if Premiere had my render codec as a preview option . Usually my final export is an MPEG video with the H.264 codec. The only render preview option I see that would be somewhat close is Quicktime H.264 and in my experience, the H.264 codec for Quicktime compresses the file way too much.

However, I'm going to try using the Apple Pro Res codec, since it's not as processed, and then export my usual MPEG. Hopefully it works well

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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What often works well is to use the HQ codec for preview and render with that as a "master" - then use that file to render to your H264 deliverable. The total render time is often the same or less than a render straight to H264. Also, if another deliverable is needed you can render from the "master" and not have to re-render all the effects again - definitely quicker.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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Another suggestion would be ... when you can ... simply replace the clips that are stabilized with a full-res Cineform, DNxHD/R, or high-quality ProRes media so once they've been analyzed, you replace them and be done with managing & trying to export WS. As replacing takes typically far less time than a re-analyzation, it's what I tend to do.

If you need to re-work the analyzation you can always reload the original clip. But I've found once I've stabilized a clip, I rarely need to do it again.

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 06, 2017 Dec 06, 2017

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Just gave this a test run and it worked like a charm. It's a great work-around, but I hope Adobe is able to fix the main issue at some point.

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New Here ,
Dec 13, 2017 Dec 13, 2017

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For me, morph cut still doesn't work with subclips...

My workaround is to convert each subclip back to a master clip by hitting 'F' to match frame, right clicking on the source monitor, clicking 'Edit Subclip', ticking the box that says 'Convert to Master Clip', then finally setting my in and out on the timeline and dropping my footage back in place (now as a master clip).

The morph cut feature now works, and the "analyzing in background" should disappear within a minute.

Adobe, these are basic issues, its been years on the subclip thing, please please get with it..

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 05, 2018 Jan 05, 2018

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This seems to have been the source of my problem, but I inserted a cut on both sides of the transition and it analyzed within seconds.

Thanks!

-- Dan Dunbar

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