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adding LUT's to Lumetri color?

Explorer ,
Jun 19, 2015 Jun 19, 2015

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Hello,

I'd like to add more LUT's to the dropdown menue in PPro cc 2015. Anyone knows the correct folder / path?

Thanks

Martin

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Adobe Employee , Apr 03, 2018 Apr 03, 2018
Hi Martin,With 12.1, there is a new feature related to color correction and the Lumetri Color panel for adding LUTs to your editing system much more easily than before.In the past, users had to add a single LUT at a time for any custom LUTs or packages of multiple LUTs. This became quite cumbersome in a good number of workflows and lead to unexpected behavior when users added LUTs incorrectly via hacking the app package. This feature allows you to create a location for adding LUTs to Premiere Pr...

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Jun 19, 2015 Jun 19, 2015

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NOTE: As of CC 2017 (12.1): Please do not add looks inside the app package any more. There is a new folder you can make see the release notes for details or scroll down in this thread.

For CC 2014, so probably same structure for CC 2015.

C Drive: /Program Files/Adobe/Adobe Premier Pro/Lumetri/LUTS  These are CUBE or ITX files

Although when you add Lumetri as an VFX it should automatically ask or browse to your LUT folder or ask for you to choose the location and then from there you can choose your LUT.

Hope this helps

MODERATOR NOTE: THIS METHOD CAUSES A LOT OF BAD ISSUES. NOT RECOMMENDED.

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Explorer ,
Jun 19, 2015 Jun 19, 2015

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did that but they still don't appear in the dropdown menue. Of course I can go with the browse function but it would be nice to have them all in one menue...

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Jun 19, 2015 Jun 19, 2015

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Need more info on what LUTs you are trying. Which LUTs are you trying to load, 1D or 3D types? 17x17x17, 33x33x33 or 65x65x65? They need to be true CUBE file format.

Go here to make up some of your own (that is if you are using Sony, Arri or Canon Cine type format cameras). Try a few of these and see if you can load them in.

LUTCalc

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 20, 2016 Nov 20, 2016

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I can't even find out how to "browse" for them. I'm really getting frustrated with this whole thing.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Nov 20, 2016 Nov 20, 2016

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Do you mean find them on your computer? That's a fairly easy process, though of course different on Macs from PC's.

On a PC, it's just go to the Program Files/Adobe/PremierePro X (whichever version you're going into)/Lumetri/LUTs folder.

On a Mac, I think there's something about unpacking the program package or something that accomplishes the above, then go through the folder chain.

The LUTs for the Creative tab drop-down are in the Creative tab folder, for the Basic tab in the Technical folder, and the 'Legacy' folder is where some previous ones that are still used (but have caused issues for quite a few users) are kept.

As I noted above ... I suggest making a subfolder in the list you're going to use, put a prefix on all your LUTs from any one source or home-brews so they pop up together, and ... COPY THAT FOLDER to the same place in the Adobe Media Encoder folder in your program files. Or AME may not "see" your LUTs/Looks to use them on a queued export.

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 20, 2015 Jun 20, 2015

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I would also love to see a way to import (e.g.) Osiris LUTs into the dropdown (and therefore the preview window) of the new Lumetri-color-panel! So far the preview works amazing and the workflow is just incredible faster than if I had to klick on brows, browse for a LUT apply it and do the same over again if I don't like it...

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Valorous Hero ,
Jun 20, 2015 Jun 20, 2015

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so i played around with the lut/looks folders. i added a .cube lut and couldn't get it to appear in the "creative" lumetri menu in premiere, no matter where i placed it. i did get the .cube luts to appear under "basic correction" pulldown menu from "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\LUTs\Technical".

i then tried a .look lut and it did show under the "creative" pulldown menu. so it appears as if that menu is limited to .look files. if you have .cube you can try a converter or try to use speedgrade to convert. then place the .look files in "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\Looks\Cine Looks". if you dont want to convert your .cube files, then you would have to place them in the luts\technical folder and use the "basic correction" pulldown menu.

if you want to load up the speedgrade lumetri looks that were in the effects panel in cc2014 but seem to be gone in cc2015, copy them from here "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe SpeedGrade CC 2015\Look Examples\Style" to "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\Looks\Cine Looks".

NOTE: As of CC 2017 (12.1): Please do not add looks inside the app package any more. There is a new folder you can make see the release notes for details or scroll down in this thread.

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Explorer ,
Jun 20, 2015 Jun 20, 2015

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Thanks, that's what I was looking for !

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 21, 2015 Jun 21, 2015

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Thank you! That really is what I was looking for. But now I can't seem to find a way to convert .cube to .look 😕 I have round about 50 LUTs I would like to convert, and converting them all "by hand" seems like quite some work. Do you know of a easy way to convert .cube into .look in batch?

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Valorous Hero ,
Jun 21, 2015 Jun 21, 2015

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i don't know of many lut converters, perhaps someone else knows a good one. there is this one Briz LUT Converter

if you have speedgrade you can make a new project with one clip, then on that clip with no changes, save it as a look. then that new look should appear with in the bottom panel with the other speedgrade looks. it should have its own tab for your custom looks vs the default speedgrade looks. once you locate it, right click and export, but then tell the export to apply the .cube lut you have. click export to save and give the zip file the same name as you want the lut to have. then open/extract the zip file to get your .look lut.

i tried this to see how well it works, when comparing the original .cube against the .look, i couldn't see any difference, but the scopes did show some slight movement. so you may want to compare it against the original as well, to see if its an acceptable conversion.

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Explorer ,
Jun 23, 2015 Jun 23, 2015

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RoninEdits wrote:

so i played around with the lut/looks folders. i added a .cube lut and couldn't get it to appear in the "creative" lumetri menu in premiere, no matter where i placed it. i did get the .cube luts to appear under "basic correction" pulldown menu from "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\LUTs\Technical".

i then tried a .look lut and it did show under the "creative" pulldown menu. so it appears as if that menu is limited to .look files. if you have .cube you can try a converter or try to use speedgrade to convert. then place the .look files in "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\Looks\Cine Looks". if you dont want to convert your .cube files, then you would have to place them in the luts\technical folder and use the "basic correction" pulldown menu.

if you want to load up the speedgrade lumetri looks that were in the effects panel in cc2014 but seem to be gone in cc2015, copy them from here "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe SpeedGrade CC 2015\Look Examples\Style" to "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2015\Lumetri\Looks\Cine Looks".

I'm having this exact same problem.  It's odd that you can browse to a *.cube file and use it fine, but Premiere only seems to want to add *.look files to it's dropdown menu in the Creative section of the panel.  I.e. it's not that *.cube files are incompatible, it's just that they are strangely invisible!

Seems like a bug in the application.

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Valorous Hero ,
Jun 23, 2015 Jun 23, 2015

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the program allowing a .cube to be used when browsing and selecting it, suggests the devs programed the pulldown menu to only show .look files from those folders. not a real bug, but a design flaw from our point of view. im sure they didn't count on others adding to that menu. just means a few extra steps for us to convert luts, then we can have it the way we want.

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Explorer ,
Jun 24, 2015 Jun 24, 2015

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Yes, an oversight on their part - and a small one they are unlikely to get round to fixing any time soon.  Still, it's odd that one menu will do it and the other won't...

Frustrating.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jul 06, 2015 Jul 06, 2015

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the program allowing a .cube to be used when browsing and selecting it, suggests the devs programed the pulldown menu to only show .look files from those folders. not a real bug, but a design flaw from our point of view. im sure they didn't count on others adding to that menu. just means a few extra steps for us to convert luts, then we can have it the way we want.

Let me look into this situation.

Kevin

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Explorer ,
Sep 15, 2015 Sep 15, 2015

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Kevin-Monahan wrote:

the program allowing a .cube to be used when browsing and selecting it, suggests the devs programed the pulldown menu to only show .look files from those folders. not a real bug, but a design flaw from our point of view. im sure they didn't count on others adding to that menu. just means a few extra steps for us to convert luts, then we can have it the way we want.

Let me look into this situation.

Kevin

So what's the status on this?

It's quite annoying to have the power of Lumetri Color in PP be neutered by the impossibility of efficiently adding/using custom LUTs.

Was hoping to see this fixed in 2015.2 but apparently not

Jan

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Adobe Employee ,
Sep 15, 2015 Sep 15, 2015

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Hi Jan,

So what's the status on this?

It's quite annoying to have the power of Lumetri Color in PP be neutered by the impossibility of efficiently adding/using custom LUTs.

Very sorry to report that I don't see any action being taken for this specific issue. The status is that we need more bug reports in order for action to be taken, I'm afraid. Have you filed one yet? If not, here's the link.

At least there is a workaround via a LUT converter or using SpeedGrade as Ronin points out. I'm afraid that this is your only option, currently. I will see what engineering has to say once they return from the IBC conference.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Jul 07, 2015 Jul 07, 2015

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Thank you!

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Explorer ,
Jul 20, 2015 Jul 20, 2015

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I copied the Style LUT's over from Speedgrade to Premier like you suggested, but I still don't see it. Am I supposed to copy the complete folder over into the Cine Looks folder, or only the content? Or, is there anything else I should do?

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Valorous Hero ,
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just copying the .look files over to the premiere folder should be enough. it might require a restart of premiere for the new .look files to show up in the lumetri color panel. these wont add anything to the effects presets if thats where you are looking.

the .look files operate different from the new looks in cc2015, which require an adjustment lut in the basic correction tab. so if you want to keep them organized, you can add a prefix or suffix to the file names of the .look files copied over from speedgrade.

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Explorer ,
Jul 22, 2015 Jul 22, 2015

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I looked in every possible preset folder in Premier and cannot find anything new. I am new to all this new "look, lut and cube" jargon - haven't a clue what they mean.

When referring to adding a prefix or suffix, what exactly do you mean by this?

Thank you for your patience!

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Valorous Hero ,
Jul 22, 2015 Jul 22, 2015

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copying over the .look files will only allow them to show up in the lumetri color panel Lumetri Color Panel explained - Premiere Pro CC 2015 - YouTube

if you want effect presets, you will have to save a preset of lumetri color with one of the looks chosen Adobe Premiere Pro Help | Effect presets

Prefix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prefix | Define Prefix at Dictionary.com

Suffix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suffix | Define Suffix at Dictionary.com

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Explorer ,
Jul 22, 2015 Jul 22, 2015

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Thanks again for your response.

Thanks for the definitions - I know what they mean 🙂 I just did not understand what should be added as a prefix or suffix.

I'll go have a look at our links, thanks!

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Valorous Hero ,
Jul 22, 2015 Jul 22, 2015

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the lumetri color panel list is sorted alphabetically. so if you add a prefix, it will group all the speedgrade looks together, if you add suffix it will sort them by their default name but mixed with the others that work differently. its up to you, how you want them to be listed.

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Explorer ,
Jul 22, 2015 Jul 22, 2015

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AH - thank you!

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