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Remove auto-add audio tracks

LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Currently, Premiere Pro adds audio tracks to a sequence whenever a file with more audio tracks than the sequence contains is opened in the Source Monitor. So, say I have a sequence with four audio tracks. If I open a clip in the Source Monitor that has 8, four more tracks are automatically added to the Sequence. This is behavior is fine for the auto-generation of NEW sequences, but frustrating in that it modifies an existing sequence with no user input whatsoever. The functionality for adding tracks, as well as source patching and track targeting, works fine, and this behavior is more of a bug than a feature.
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Adobe Employee , Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023
Automatically adding tracks to accommodate inserted clips was a popular feature request, and is unlikely to be removed

Would you prefer a warning?

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Explorer ,
Feb 01, 2023 Feb 01, 2023

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That's exactly one of the main problems with this behavior @Woodyinc and it's one of those frustrating things that makes me think that the engineers don't really use the products. It's the age-old battle between the users and the programmers. No editor can really understand the complexity of creating, programming, and updating these editing applications and no engineer can really understand the joy, anger, nuances and frustrations that editors experience with something as seemingly tiny as this very "feature" we're talking about right here. Can't we all just get along?

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New Here ,
Mar 21, 2023 Mar 21, 2023

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Sorry for my rusty english. An pratical example: I'm working (on Avid) in a TV Series that we are monitoring all the main editing (Record/Program Timeline) in stereo. All the material was recorded with multiple audio channels (one mic for each character). So, sometimes, when you need to insert clips from the source monitor (source timeline with multiple audio channels), with IN/OUT 3-point edit method, per example, it's very fast and useful to select the necessary audio tracks you need (and to deselect those which have lavalier cloth rustle) with a few clicks and inserted in the editing timeline that remains clean, without more tracks added automaticaly. That's the strongest side of Avid comparing to Premiere by now for fast selects in my opinion.

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Explorer ,
Mar 21, 2023 Mar 21, 2023

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When was it a "feature" request? It's been there as long as I've ever used Premiere. Were there actaully more requests for it then there are now to get rid of it? I haven't seen a single post from a single editor who likes it the way it is. I don't want a warning. What good is a warning?  Like 99% of the users here I want it gone or at least have a way to shut it off. This "feature" makes absolutely no sense as has been illustrated ad nauseum.

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New Here ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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Is there already an option how to disable automatically adding tracks to timeline or not? Trying to find how to deactivate this, but couldn´t find anything. This feature is really boring and user unfriendly. Thanks for reply.

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Explorer ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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Nope this hasn't been changed. The best practice is to modify your audio channels in the project panel before placing them on your timeline to prevent audio tracks being added that you don't want. To do this right click a clip in the project panel pick "modify" then in the flyout menu pick "audio channels" then you will get a dialogue box allowing you to remove any channels you don't need. You can also use the keyboard shortcut of "Shift-G" to get to the same dialogue box.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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There is no option to not add tracks for the channels you're importing, yet. We're planning to do it; no dates available.

And yes, it was a hotly-requested feature, by numerous sports broadcasters.

 

[And yes, Scott, we do use the product. :)]

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Explorer ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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@Bruce Bullis I'd be very interested in that sports broadcaster request, considering that no one in this and other user voice threads about this (as well as on the Facebook groups) has voted in favor of this behavior. I know that Adobe does sometimes add feature things to accommodate some specific high-profile requests, which is nice. We've had some good features added from that but sometimes it comes at the detriment of others. And that is exactly what happened here. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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hmmm....Intresting. I've had sports gigs before for national media and cant think of why this would be requested. Really seems like a niche request. 

That being said ive also seen some horrible workflows from senior level editors....

Maybe a better solution would be to allow useres to right click the source media in thier project and when selecting  "create new sequence from clip" all audio tracks get carried over into the time line?  Instead of the current workflow where unwanted audio tracks are generated in a sequence preset.  Additonally the sports broadcasters could create a sequence preset that would give them the audio tracks they need instead of the current workflow. Not to be snarky but "common sense isnt very common" seems to be the theme for this "feature".  Seems like there were far easier solultions for the sports guys. 

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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Hell is other people's workflows. 🙂

As previously mentioned, we're planning to add the pref. 

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Advisor ,
Jan 12, 2024 Jan 12, 2024

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Oh there's *absolutely* times when you want timeline tracks created to match source tracks. Not just sport either. Thanks for the update @Bruce Bullis 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 13, 2024 Jan 13, 2024

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Scott - me too. I've worked o. The Olympics, 10 Super Bowls, World Cup etc and don't know a single broadcaster requesting this. Broadcast sports editors are a highly skilled bunch specialising in fast turnaround. The last thing any of us want is an extra step in our workflows. 

I'm delighted to see Adobe plan to address thos. Let's hope it's on their radar for 2024. 

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Advisor ,
Jan 13, 2024 Jan 13, 2024

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Unless I'm missing something, this is about automatically adding tracks right? 

 

This is useful, sometimes, when editing tracks from someone else's sequence to your own. But it's rare. 95% of the time I have it disabled in Avid. As stated before I would be in favour of emulating the behaviour there. Pretty sure I made a screen recording about it.

 

I suspect 'sports broadcasters' wanted to be able to *access* 16 source tracks when they only have 8 timeline tracks. And auto add tracks was the way that request got implemented.

 

Really we need to see an asynchronous number of track lights for source and program sides.

 

Ideally they would implement autopatch too. 

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Explorer ,
Jan 27, 2024 Jan 27, 2024

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I think this would be a great preference choice. This way those who like it can use it and those who don't can disable it. This is how Avid deal with it. A simple checkbox 'allow auto create tracks'.

 

I find it endlessly frustrating that Premiere keeps trying to create tracks I don't want.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 27, 2024 Jan 27, 2024

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It was requested by sports broadcasters so editors have had to live with it for all this time? Lugging around useless lockeked audio tracks for the duration of a project is inefficient and confusing. A disable feature is all we need. Thanks. 

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