The new export screen is clumsy, bulky, and requires more clicking. [Export]

[Zoe7traveller]

I used to be able to easily zip up and down the various settings just with a quick scroll of the mouse wheel. Now, I'm constantly clicking, clicking, clicking to open various tabs. Because the boxes are much bigger, far less information is being displayed on my screen. Please, is there some way I can go back to the friendlier older version??

[jakub1790]

I figured a stopgap solution where the old interface is available in Media Encoder.

Obviously, I'd prefer Adobe to bring the old interface in Premiere myself too and we shouldn't be expected to figure out solutions on our own.

[Brandon Walsh]

Please revert to the Premiere Pro 12.2 and prior export window. I understand the desire to expand options to a full screen, but many changes are now much harder to reach.

For instance, we now have to decide the export folder and file name in separate bars, and are unable to select a file to populate the target file name and location. Why make this more difficult?

Where presets and adjustments were in close proximity before, immediately visible or a quick mouse scroll away, they're now buried in drop down and sandwich menus (target bitrate especially buried)

Any professional editor knows how many exports a single video can necessitate, and the need to execute those exports quickly is paramount to performing efficiently. Would love if the dev team could correct course in the interest of us creative professionals.

Thanks so much,
Brandon

[Spektr]

In this version we have to put the name of the file and then choose the location. Before we could do both things at the same time. We loose precisous time remember how many versions we had before ect. We need to be able to do that. I loose many secondes on each exports. Its precious time

[Franco Grillo]

Please give us this option... Preferences, General, turn off workflow breaking, stupid, totally unnecessary features.

I mean, really - who are you implementing this for, complete dummies? This is insulting. Give us the option to turn this **** off and get back to completing our projects. You're so big about talking up workflow, workflow, workflow, and then in one incremental update you break everything and make us go searching around this totally ******, redesigned, hodgepodge for stuff that we do day-in and day-out. If it's this much trouble to figure out, I might as well put the work in and learn Final Cut Pro or something else. Come on Adobe. Oh, I'm so annoyed. I've been using Adobe everything for 25 years. Thanks, no really - thanks. How is this an improvement? It's not.

[Franco Grillo]

My main gripes are with the interface, both opening Premiere and starting a new project and exporting sequences from within Premiere. It threw me off the rails yesterday and I was not able to finish my work. I usually embrace change and love digging into new features, but this one just got me more and more upset. This is not an improvement, it just seems like an unnecessary face lift just to do something to justify the subscription fee. Also, we're pro's and we've got pro equipment including massive curved screens and the new interface looks like it's designed for a phone - I mean, come on. Don't turn Premiere into Adobe Rush.

Bottom line, if you're going to shove this ineffective interface change down our throats, how about giving us an on/off switch in the preferences?

More often than not I'm blown away with the continual improvements Adobe brings our way (Lumetri Color was huge) but this one has just left me shaking my head and rolling my eyes. It just upsets me every time I start and close Premiere.

So can you throw me a bone Fergus? What tweaks are in the pipeline?

[Remote Index]

Fergus,

I'm struck by the amount of (unpaid) time and effort that users already put into this forum. This is in stark contrast to the amount of (paid) time and effort that Adobe seem to put in here. Often, when Adobe responds, it is to ask for more (unpaid) time and effort from users.

To the point of this particular post - the current "information" given to me by Adobe as I consider whether or not to update is thus:
"This update introduces Frame.io for Creative Cloud, redesigned import and export workflows, Quick Export preset manager, Auto Color, and more." (no link for more).

I have addressed this particular problem before, but this is my question to you: do you think the above gives any user enough information to make an informed decision about updating? do you think it allows a user to assess what bugs have been solved (thus making it attractive) or what interface or workflow aspects have been changed? what bugs persist unaddressed?

This issue is all the more galling when you consider that Adobe has an entire, special app, whose main purpose is to install and update apps, including an entire interface which is dedicated to information about "new updates".

R.

[Franco Grillo]

To Mr. R,

Honestly, I would not update, unless you're into collaboration and work with other editors in other places on the same project. Like, who does that cover - maybe 0.5% of all Premiere users? But hey, 100% of all users must swallow these stupid interface changes.

Actually, R, if you do update, let me know what you think of it. I'm forced into it now, but had I known before hand, I would not have done it.

[jakub1790]

I agree, The new export interface completely threw me off and I keep spending totally unnecessary amount of time looking for settings that I've developed muscle memory for.

the export window was good as it was, why the need to change something that was not broken ?

(for example the pop up window to change formats , say from HEVC to dnx or whatever, is completely useless mess compared to the previous way of doing it )

[jakub1790]

The new export window is really terrible.

look, I don't mind changing things a bit here and there, but for love of Mary and all holy please at least preserve the general layout logic that had been used before.

Also definitely not a big fan of the tabs being vertical rather than horizontal

I'm using premiere for 10+ years and developed solid muscle memory of what settings are where and I do not have the time to hunt for export setting and presets - especially if their new locations are completely different and follow whole new UX/UI logic

[autokroma]

To me there is more space for UI controls now. Maybe after getting used to the new interface it'll get better in time

[Andrew Chandler]

New Exporter & New Project UI's are a downgrade, less intuitive and efficient. Please go back to the drawing board on these "new features" they do not help content creators.

[MyerPj]

Yes, the LONG ROAD to a new project.

Someone must have been using a laptop to design this new screen. My mouse and I have to travel a literal 32" to get from the New Project name to the create button and I actually need to turn my head to look from top-left to bottom-right.

And why oh why would there not be a "Chose Location" button right next to the drop-down instead of having to select it at the end of the drop-down list... strange, did I mention there's 32" of clear space for a small button?

Why is this window not resizable. Use it to have all the new project options available on one screen, and not have the media picker on that screen also. Often times I'm testing stuff and I just need a new project using the media files already open in file explorer... sheesh...

[Phillip Harvey]

I agree with this. Putting out multiple versions of videos with iterative file names or slight adjustments to a naming convention is now a problem. Encountered on my first project just now after installing 22.3. I want to utilize the same naming convention of the previous file that I created. I needed to actually go into File Explorer, find the file, copy the name from that. Not ideal.

[andrewfriedrichs]

I work on a 40" ultrawide monitor. The new export screen is an absolute joke in terms of usability. What should be a small window in the center of my screen is now my *entire* screen.

Beyond that, a UI change is one thing; radically changing the established workflows (like mine, where I iterate files quickly by clicking on existing filenames) is really uncalled for. At least give us the option to have the old experience. Changing presets in a separate window with a search bar? Are we serious? Where are my contextual drop-downs?

I grant I might be missing something because I'm in a crunch but I'm pretty appalled at what I discovered when I went to start rendering stuff out this evening.

[Pedro21776335344b]

Why is not going back an option if everyone are facing the same problems and don't get any advantage with the new features? What was so bad with the previous export window that you couldn't apply the same tap menu window as u have now?
The info you need is clear: The current Export Tab makes you waste time by clicking and having to open hidden windows, when before you would need only to scroll down. Now you can't see the file names, while choosing destination folder. So you have to constantly change your sequence name and I can't imagine how frustrating must be for huge productions that have a lot of versions and big file names to deal with.
Is also good to have the older small export window, being able to see the timeline and other stuff at background, instead of having an export window occupying the whole screen, with 50% of empty space and your final video almost fullscreen when you don't need it (worst with widescreens).
Your new update only suits Youtubers and everyone that works directly with some video host and social network website, allowing them to export directly from Premiere to some cloud. You can say you had cut some time, but not on a working level. After the work done (rendered) the time is relative, and I doubt someone would save a great amount of time on uploading a video directly to youtube, rather via browser.

[Pablo Diartinez]

I'll chime in:

I need to be able to access bitrate right away. I use presets as a starting point and then adjust where needed.

If Adobe is so determined to keep this panel*, perhaps it could be an idea to be able to keep all the subsets open, the way you can with stacked panels (solo panels in stack). Then again this would be unwieldy because there's so much options vertically (used to be conveniently separated horizontally). Or maybe remember which subset you had open last time, the way premiere remembers changes to the workspace?

I just pray this new design style doesn't make its way into "actual premiere" (now known as the edit tab)

* I would love to know: why? Who are you doing this for? Especially the import tab... makes no sense. All I can think of is that someone in management thought Premiere needed to look more like Resolve.

[M-F-X]

The new Export Dialogue is atrocious and wasting a lot of time.

Go back to the old dialogue or give us the option to switch back

[Nathaniel24169835kpd8]

The new UI is terribly inefficient. I'm not opposed to change, but give the option for the "iMovie" like import window w/ a new project or a power user type new project for those of us who import footage other ways. Blackmagic Resolve does this well for example, where you crate a project on one tab and then it takes you to the import window. If you want to go directly to the edit window because say you drag folders in, you can hop right to the edit window without trying to navigate a clunky importer. The new export UI is clunky as well, and should have the option to use the old one. Overall, major UI downgrade, and is disappointing to see Premiere going in the direction that drove away so many FCP 7 users 11 years ago.

[hellopaul4]

I have been moaning about this god-awful export atrocity for months (in the Beta version) to no avail. It is a major step backwards in EVERY way (more mouse clicks to achieve the same thing) and offers absolutely NO advantages over the previous, FAR superior workflow. It would be heroic of Adobe to admit this is a terrible mistake, and go back to the wonderful, simple, quick, efficient export system we all loved and had NO problems with. Why "fix" something that's not broken?!

[LabspaceCBR]

Hi Fergus. Why were the comments made in the beta forum not taken serious. The most common complaint was that users now have to double click to do the same thing which only required a single click before. Was the merit of this complaint not valid? I for one said don’t put the workspaces in a drop down menu in the header bar. I use multiple workspaces and now takes twice the time to change a workspace. Does that not have merit? Leave it in the header bar with as before. There is space for it. Why change it. My only guess is UI Beauty takes priority over speed and functionality as one example.

[ricardol94545403]

"I get it, change is hard.." Francis thinks condescension is an appropriate response to a complete rejection of a bad implementation of terrible UI. The dissatisfaction is unanimous. Quit making this an issue with customers. Terrible response across the board. Premiere is becoming iMovie, and me and my organization are not here for it.

[ricardol94545403]

The dissatisfaction is unanimous. Quit making this an issue with your customers needing to adjust. Terrible response across the board. Premiere is becoming iMovie, and me and my organization are not here for it.

[Hutch Harris]

Hi Fergus,

"Software is never done" just... isn't true? There are still people out there who use old versions of Final Cut, or are still clinging on to that last-released version of Adobe Fireworks or anything from CS6 because the software was, well, complete. Heck, George RR Martin is still using Wordstar 4.0. I get that Adobe has fully committed to the "software as as service" model but you're kidding yourself if you think that "software is never done." But I guess that's a little more philosophical and not what we should be talking about on Uservoice.

Anyway, to answer your question - I don't think people are going to have too many concrete suggestions. Just snarky notes like Franco's, unhelpful as they are, because the UI overhaul is really tripping people up. And it's frustrating that the Adobe team seems to just not care. A major problem on the UX end is that while yes, there are some great new features being added, things that just *worked* before, or were integrated into much larger workflows, have been negatively impacted or changed so much that they no longer fit into said workflow. Again, having perspective, I get that Adobe is trying to push users into their own ecosystem (Frame.io integrations) but many many teams just won't want to make that leap, and already have their own infrastructure. In short - don't add new features if it breaks what worked previously, please!

Another topic of contention - Beta versions. It's plain old bad optics that you keep pushing users to provide feedback on the beta version. Don't the users pay you for software? Why do we also have to act as beta testers? Do we really have to remind you, constantly, to not fix what isn't broken? We're all busy and don't necessarily have the time. And that's besides the point, as it seems that you don't listen to the beta testers anyway (please stop hiding things behind multiple mouse clicks).

Bottom line - I guess I can't speak for everyone but I don't think we have lists of suggestions. The #1 thing you could do is make these sweeping UI changes optional, or just provide a "legacy UI" checkbox in the preferences.

Best,
--Sam

[Heathenlamb]

Please revert the Exporter on Premiere Pro. The new exporter is clunky, confusing, counter intuitive and difficult to navigate.

[Jake Low]

No Francis provide an option for the old UI as maybe a "Legacy" option. Whoever gave the greenlight for the new UI is a complete fool. And whoever made the decision to not retain the original UI as an option is an even bigger fool.