Numbered Lists with Dynamic Content Filtering

Report · Sep 22, 2016

I couldn't find this information anywhere, though I would imagine I'm probably not the first person to encounter this issue...

I have some topics where the steps in procedures are presented with numbered lists. I'm using Conditional Build Tags on some of the numbered steps to filter them out when specific filters are applied in the Responsive HTML5 output. When I look at a topic in the preview mode and apply filters, the list numbers automatically renumber to avoid skipping numbers. However, when I generate the output and then apply the filter, the rows disappear as expected, but the numbered lists skip the filtered numbers.

For example:

This filters as shown in the preview:

But in the generated output, the numbering is way off:

Is there any way to make this number correctly?

Report · Sep 22, 2016

Hi there

Have you looked to ensure you haven't applied a specific start number to some of the stuff? I tested my own RoboHelp 2015 Release and the numbers filter out and maintain the numbering just fine. For example, if I have a list like this:

1. List item one

2. List item two

3. List item three

And the filtering removes list item two, my list looks like this:

1. List item one

2. List item three

For the items that aren't following the numbering, I'd look at the list to ensure it doesn't resemble this:

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Thanks for the reply. Did you try generating your list in Responsive HTML5 format? It works fine for me when I use the Robohelp preview feature, but when I actually generate the Responsive HTML5 output, it does not work. I have not specified any special numbering or restarts to the list.

The list numbers seem to be hard coded in the html, so I'm guessing this is not something that it can do at run time?

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Can you show us an example of how the list numbering is appearing in the HTML output? I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be seeing the actual numbers if your list is defined correctly...

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Sure. Here it is in the generated output:

And here it is when viewing in Robohelp's preview (before generating):

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Sorry, I meant, "let's see the source HTML code" in your topic and in the output.

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Well, considering the niggling little fact that the only output format that offers filtering at this point is Responsive HTML 5.

From what I've seen with my own testing, the numbers are certainly not hard coded as you are thinking.

Here, I recorded a small video to demonstrate.

Click here to view

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate that. I do not believe there are any restarts in my code. I don't see any. I'll paste code excerpts below as requested above. This is the Bullets and Numbering screen for step 9:

Perhaps it is relevant that I am using a Multilevel List style for these steps? I have the list style configured as shown:

Additionally, this section appears in two chapters so I have it in a snippet, though I tried it outside of a snippet and found the same issue. For reference, here's what the tagging looks like:

It does work fine in the preview mode. Could an Output setting be causing this?

Thanks for the help guys.

Here's an excerpt from the section shown in my last post. This is the HTML source in Robohelp:

When the Select Features window displays, click

the Select All

Tool, and click Next.<?rh-list_end ?>

<img src="image27.jpg"

alt="" style="border: none;" border="0" />

<?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">Continue with the SQL Server Service Pack installation.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  This can take some time.<?rh-list_end ?>

<?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">When the SQL Server Service Pack installation

is complete, shut down and restart the Server.<?rh-list_end ?>

<img src="image28.jpg" alt="" style="border: none;"

border="0" />

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_All_Versions" ?><?rh-list_start level="1"

class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">When you want to install Service Pack 2 (Service

Pack 2 is supported but not required for SQL Server 2008 R2 x64), repeat

steps 1 through

4 to install Service Pack 2.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  Otherwise, skip

to step 7.<?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_All_Versions" ?><?rh-list_start level="1"

class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">Install Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 2 is required

for SQL Server 2012 x64), repeat

steps 1

through <b

style="bidi-font-weight: normal;">4 to install Service

Pack 2. <?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_All_Versions" ?><?rh-list_start level="1"

class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">When you want to install Service Pack 3

(Service Pack 3 is supported, but not required for SQL Server 2008 R2

x64), repeat steps 1

through 4

to install Service Pack 3.  Otherwise,

skip to step 7.<?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?><?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List"

style="list-style: rh-list;

list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">When you want to install Service Pack 2 (Service

Pack 2 is supported but not required for SQL Server 2008 R2 x64), repeat

steps 1 through

4 to install Service Pack 2.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  Otherwise, skip

to step 7.<?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?><?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List"

style="list-style: rh-list;

list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">Install Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 2 is required

for SQL Server 2012 x64), <?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?>repeat

steps<?rh-cbt_end ?> <?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?>1<?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?>through<?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?>4<?rh-cbt_end ?>

to install Service Pack 2.<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2012" ?><span

style="spacerun: yes;"> <?rh-cbt_end ?><?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?><?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List"

style="list-style: rh-list;

list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">When you want to install Service Pack 3 (Service

Pack 3 is supported, but not required for SQL Server 2008 R2 x64), <?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?><b

style="bidi-font-weight: normal;">repeat steps<?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?>1<?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?>through<?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?>4<?rh-cbt_end ?>

to install Service Pack 3.<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?><span

style="spacerun: yes;"> <?rh-cbt_end ?> Otherwise,

<?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?>skip

to step<?rh-cbt_end ?> <?rh-cbt_start condition="SQL_2008" ?>7<?rh-cbt_end ?>.<?rh-list_end ?><?rh-cbt_end ?>

<?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">Access

Windows Server Computer Management (refer

to <a href="Database_Server/Accessing_Alliant%2c_SQL_Server%2c_and_Windows_Server_Applications/Accessing_Alliant%2c_SQL_Server%2c_and_Windows_Server_Applications.htm">Accessing

Alliant, SQL Server, and Windows Server Applications</a> for

further information).<?rh-list_end ?>

<img src="image30.jpg" alt="" style="border: none;"

border="0" />

<?rh-list_start level="1" class="ML_List" style="list-style: rh-list; list-style: rh-list;" ?><p

class="List_Number">Expand Services

and Applications, expand SQL

Server Configuration Manager, expand <b style="bidi-font-weight: normal;

color: #800080;">SQL Server

Network Configuration and select <b style="bidi-font-weight: normal;

color: #800080;">Protocols

for ServerName.

And here is the same section in the generated output:

Select All

Next.

p class="List_Number_Image"><img src="../../../image27.jpg" alt="" style=" border:none; width:100%; max-width:550px;" border="0" />

p

class="List_Number">3. Continue with the SQL Server Service Pack installation.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  This can take some time.

p

class="List_Number">4. When the SQL Server Service Pack installation

p class="List_Number_Image"><img src="../../../image28.jpg" alt="" style=" border:none; width:100%; max-width:548px;" border="0" />

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="10">5. When you want to install Service Pack 2 (Service

repeat

1 through

4 to install Service Pack 2.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  Otherwise, skip

7.

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="10">6. Install Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 2 is required

repeat

1

through <b

style="bidi-font-weight: normal;">4 to install Service

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="10">7. When you want to install Service Pack 3

repeat steps 1

through 4

Otherwise,

skip to step 7.

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="4">8. When you want to install Service Pack 2 (Service

repeat

1 through

4 to install Service Pack 2.<span

style="spacerun: yes;">  Otherwise, skip

7.

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="2">9. Install Service Pack 2 (Service Pack 2 is required

repeat

1

through

4

p class="List_Number rh-hide" data-rhtags="4">10. When you want to install Service Pack 3 (Service

repeat steps

1

through

4

Otherwise,

skip

7.

p

class="List_Number">11. Access

(refer

<a href="../../Accessing_Alliant,_SQL_Server,_and_Windows_Server_Applications/Accessing_Alliant,_SQL_Server,_and_Windows_Server_Applications.htm">Accessing

</a> for

p class="List_Number_Image"><img src="../../../image30.jpg" alt="" style=" border:none; width:100%; max-width:430px;" border="0" />

p

class="List_Number">12. Expand Services

, expand SQL

, expand <b style="bidi-font-weight: normal;

SQL Server

and select <b style="bidi-font-weight: normal;

Protocols

ServerName.

Report · Sep 23, 2016

I'm seeing this code:

Are you by chance using the "Multi-Level" list here? If so, maybe that's what's nailing things. I'll have to test a bit on my end.

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Maybe the multi-level list function has an impact - I don't know - never used it. Is your RH2015 install completely patched up?

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Yep, just tested on my end with a multi-numbered list. And in that list type, things go to pot!

Seems the fix is to avoid using that list type. Pretty easy to accomplish. Select first and last bit of list and click the multilevel icon. then simply apply numbers.

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

And then go file a bug report to get it on Adobe's radar ;>)

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Follow up. I tried manipulating the code in the editor. I noticed that the list code had the outer tagging pertaining to the list and the CBT tagging following that. So I tried rearranging the order in which they were listed. Made no difference I could see in the output. Things were still horked.

I'm thinking that you have discovered a hidden feature! Congratulations!

I'd suggest reporting it to Adobe.

Click here to file a bug report

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Bummer. We pretty much need to keep it a multilevel list. I'll have to try to think of a workaround when I have more time.

I've filed bug reports with adobe before and they've gone nowhere. I don't really think it's worth the time but if anyone else comes across this issue and wants to, feel free to use our examples.

Thanks for the help guys.

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Actually, the bug reports do end up before the development team responsible for the product. I've filed bugs in the past where the dev team actually sent me follow up messages asking for more detail or sometimes advising that it isn't a bug and I should be using feature (X) instead of doing what I was doing.

I'll be happy to file a bug report about this.

Cheers... Rick

Report · Sep 23, 2016

Alright. Thanks.

Report · Nov 02, 2016

Could you post a link to the bug report for this so I can vote for it? This is an important issue for me. Thanks.

Report · Nov 02, 2016

You will need to obtain and use a login.

Click here to view

Cheers... Rick

Report · Nov 02, 2016

I meant the specific bug listing for this issue, if you entered one as suggested above. If not, I'll go ahead and enter one.

Report · Nov 02, 2016

Here's a link for anyone who wants to vote for this bug.

Bug#4197245 - Multi-Level Lists do not adjust with Dynamic Content Filtering

Report · May 22, 2017

Did adobe wipe out all their old bug reports? I went to check on this to see if they are going to fix it and it's nowhere to be found.

Report · May 22, 2017

What was wiped was your access. I do know they still internal access but

that doesn't help you. There's a new bugbase. I'll add a link once I'm back

on a PC.

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Report · Jun 06, 2017

Are they likely to fix this? We just upgraded to Robohelp 2017 and it's still broken. It seems like a pretty big flaw when dynamic content filtering is one of their big features now.

Report · Jun 07, 2017

Looks like it's now called "Tracker" - Tracker - have a look & see if your issue in there...

Report · Jun 07, 2017

The search is not working for me now... It just spins endlessly. I do remember searching this new tracker before and not finding it which is why I asked if they wiped out all of their old bug reports.

I'm sincerely wondering if something happened at Adobe recently. We had a really hard time navigating their site to download the new applications and their communication and documentation seem to have taken a step down in quality.

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Numbered Lists with Dynamic Content Filtering

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