P: Provide support for Linux (2011)

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I was wondering if Adobe released any Photoshop versions for Linux? Because I looked everywhere in Adobe's site but I could not find any information.

[Lumigraphics]

Most Android phones are cheap garbage/old versions. A fairly small percent are current high end models. Regardless, only a tiny subset of phones in use have powerful enough hardware to run Photoshop (current iPhone 11 models are similar to iPads in processing power.)

[roc97007]

You're talking to someone who originally used Photoshop on a Mac G4.  I gave up on Apple when they started getting into a pi$$ing contest with Adobe on how the touch pad should work, and at the same time Apple's prices got frankly outrageous.  I could buy or build a much more powerful Windows box for less money.  I don't care about style or pretty brushed metal, or really expensive stylish looking monitors, I just want to get my work done.  But then, I had to deal with Windows.  And the really annoying thing is, Adobe Creative Cloud is the *only* thing I use Windows for.  Every other tool is either already ported to Linux (sometimes works *better* on Linux) or is a cloud based tool that works out of a browser.

I don't need Windows.  I don't need Apple.  Except for Adobe CC.  It's infuriating.  And it's about to drive me away from Adobe.  Darktable is a pretty good tool.  I'm actively considering migration.

The days of Linux being a PITA on the desktop are long past.  Linux on the desktop was a rocky experience initially, but so was Windows and so was Mac OS.  The only difference is that Linux improved more recently than those other two platforms, so everyone (and those who continue to spread FUD) still think of Linux as that horrible command line thing where nothing works.  It hasn't been true for some time.

In the meantime, Windows and OSX are high enough up on the curve that they struggle to provide new compelling features in successive releases.  And sometimes get it dreadfully wrong.  (Windows 8.)  We've reached the point where the OS doesn't really matter anymore, so there's no reason to struggle with the issues of Windows or break the bank buying Mac gear.

And yes there's "many different versions of Linux".  Let's leave for now that they tend to be binary compatible, I stipulate that Adobe could support *any* desktop version of Linux -- Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Deepin, elementary, and their customers who want to use Linux would convert to that.  Because the distribution doesn't really matter.  I'm currently running Mint.  But I could switch to elementary in less than a day, if there were a reason to do so.

Answering another thread, it doesn't really matter what OS runs on the most machines or what the casual user feels comfortable using, because Adobe CC is not a tool for the casual user.  It's a niche product, and what's important is what their actual audience wants, not on what platform everyone else runs Solitaire.

[roc97007]

The problem with Android as I see it is that it is generally a touch screen OS, and there isn't yet a touch interface rich enough to effectively run Lightrom or Photoshop.  Yes, I know there are versions of Lightroom and Photoshop for Android/IOS.  They are toys.  To be effective tools, someone, probably Adobe, is going to have to invent some new gestures -- think of the Minority Report interface -- and standardize on them.  There is almost certainly huge development cost to do this, and the total number of Adobe CC users doesn't warrant it.  So we're stuck with a 1980's era point-n-click interface which is unlikely to get better.

At some point, someone other than Adobe is going to take full advantage of a sophisticated touch interface for a CC-like tool set, and we can finally turn our back on KVM platforms like Windows and OSX.  But that day is still not today.

[roc97007]

"most android phones are cheap garbage/old version."  Amost certainly true.  And most Android users are not Adobe CC users, so the point is moot.  With a competent set of tools (not what they currently call Photoshop and Lightroom on Android -- those are toys) I'd fully expect needing higher end products to run them.  And that would be fine.  But more importantly, we'd need a set of gestures rich enough to use the tools effectively, and we don't currently have that.  Microsoft seemed to be going the right direction with the original Surface (now called PixelSense) but it seems to be only a movie prop now.  They don't seem interested in making it mainstream.

[roc97007]

Adobe on Wine -- I've been down that road, and it's a red herring.  It's true that some people have gotten old versions of Photoshop running under Wine sometime in the past, and there are tales of success available on the intertubes.

You'll find that nobody has gotten the current tools running under Wine, and my understanding is that this is a deliberate move by Adobe.  They've figured out how to design the product so that it breaks under Wine.  It's just not possible.  And I'm unlikely to want to go back to Photoshop 4 just so I can run it on Mint.  The reason I originally went to CC was that certain new features of Photoshop (motion blur filter, smart object removal) and Lightroom (improved noise processing, graduated filter) didn't exist in the older versions.

[roc97007]

"average people" aren't Adobe CC users.  It doesn't matter what "average people" are using.

[roc97007]

Darktable is a fine tool.  I have a quarter million photos in my Lightroom catalog.  Is there any way to migrate that to Darktable and preserve my collections?

[The_Mad_Martian]

There is currently an effort to get a POL (play on linux) script to help install cc on linux

it worked previously but at the moment due to the cc installer using components not implemented by wine, it has stopped working but stay vigilant

[ls_rbls]

Yes, and CrossOver and PlayOnMac are supporting macOS Catalina now, fixed a few things too. 

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I'm amazed Linux hasn't seen more love from adobe,
If they can get it to run on the dumpster fire's that are windows and ios; Linux should be a breeze.

the only real downside I can see is the mass of distro's they may look into supporting

[ivframes]

It wouldn't/should be an issue anymore considering Linux has gone long way since manual code compiling.

Not only there are fairly uniformed debian packages, but also flatpak, snap and others that work on every linux, regardless of the distro.

I don't think that's the issue at all, but probably some exclusivity towards Microsoft on the PC, or general opinion of the Open Source users that is totally different than of commercial products (and in a good way), so maybe Photoshop and other packages wouldn't see so many paid users.

Because, this back and forth with Adobe made me learn to use open source alternatives and their workflows. I realized how incredibly advanced RawTherapee is for RAW developing (far more than LR) and how much GIMP improved in every segment and even more advanced in certain areas than PS for photo editing. I still have PS in Virtualbox, just in case my job requires it, but so far, I'm yet to use it and will probably cancel my sub.

[rhakbari]

As Linux is a big market of Operating systems in the Dev world so Adobe should consider releasing its products for Ubuntu/Debian linux too so that Linux users can also edit photos/videos on linux and the adobe increases its market share in the editing world.. 

This is a big requirement by the linux users in order to edit media professionally as linux is really good performance wise, I bet adobe products will perform amazing too on low end hardware which will lead to increasement of adobe users... 

[c.pfaffenbichler]

This is a user Forum, so you are not really addressing Adobe here, even though some Adobe employees thankfully have been dropping by.

But you can add your vote to the existing Feature Request for Photoshop to be released for Linux here: 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/adobe_photoshop_for_linux

[davescm]

I am sure if there was a massive demand, that made it financially effective to develop and maintain applications for another platform, Adobe would see the commercial opportunity. But 185 votes in 9 years would not seem to make a brilliant business case 🙂

Dave

[rhakbari]

Back then linux wasnt that popular because it was command-line but as now linux is developing its GUI on a daily basis its much better than mac and windows and being a free operating system in the market it has grown alot but if adobe plays its part in the market by pushing out its products to linux many users who are still using old operating systems just to use adobe products will shift to linux due to that and but the new adobe products that supports linux so there's a chance that the user base of adobe to increase after their release of linux supportable products as linux is a free OS.

[gener7]

Here is the 9 year long thread on Photoshop and Linux. It's worth a read and you are free to add your voice.

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/adobe_photoshop_for_linux?topic-reply-list[se...

Personally I'm on a  Mac, and doing fine there. However since there are others like yourself interested in this topic, I thought I'd point it out.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Feel free to express your view of the situation on the feedback.photoshop.com-site but please don’t take insult if Adobe does not follow your reasoning. 

Adobe has done market research in the past (and they probably still do) but so far they have apparently not deemed the projected returns to justify the expenditures. 

[gener7]

My sleepy bad...I see you already pointed it out, but I suppose it bears repeating. 🙂

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Considering teaching GIMP to my daughter and some of her classmates and keeping PS in Virtualbox for the same reason.  Linux support is so simple today there really is no reason not to support it.  Gimp ports easily to any platform and is adequately robust and superior is some ways.  If PS were a native install we would subscribe simply to support progressive thinking software.  As it is open-source [think Android etc] is responding more quickly to consumers needs and desires [operating system support is a great example] so it makes more sense to direct students to platforms that do not only recognize "walled gardens."  Cheers

[ivframes]

Spot on.
Not only wrong, I was unaware of how much GIMP improved over the last 10 years. For example, I didn't know that Content Aware tool in PS originated from GIMP's Resynthesizer filter (installed separately but still free as a bird). The more I know the program, the more "a-ha!" moments there are and I'm already feeling at home. At the same time it is forever being free. How cool is that?

Cheers for your progressive thinking Steven and teaching the kids.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

I am not a Gimp user but I wonder if your history may not be a bit unclear on this. 
Content-Aware functionality in Photoshop goes a while back already and probably incorporates different approaches – at least I don’t immediately see how the seam-carving-approach behind Content-Aware-Scale would figure in Content-Aware-Fill. 
And Adobe would have to honor the patents that other software providers, even if it’s freeware, hold ... 

[ivframes]

Well I'm no software historian by any means, but initial Resynthesizer version goes back to 2008 by Paul Harrison. It includes both content aware fill for restructuring transparency and non-transparent things. Google says Content aware fill was introduced in PS CS5 in April 2010.

Now this all is rather meaningless in 2020, but the whole point was that GIMP made a long way and had some neat things ahead of its time.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

That made me curious but a few sentences in on this 
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10332291
the curiosity waned ... and that was apparently filed 2017. 

In any case I am not trying to discourage anyone from using Gimp, a few years back we even had to use it to salvage a file that Photoshop could not edit anymore because of a curious, off-canvas pixel-limit violation. 

[JensEckervogt]

Hello everyone , why do you not release any softwares under Linux?

Sorry I don't care Windows because I am very scared to Windows.  I am using since September 2018 with Ubuntu 18.04 and I cannot install Adobe software on wine because they are very sensitively. 

1. Please release softwares under Linux! I thought you don't want release softwares under Linux. I recommend you have experience of XLib/Gtk3/4
2. We would love to test trail version or buy softwares under Linux.

Please stop use only Windows and macOS! We want Adobe's Developers should release under Linux.

I recommend you release installer of Adobe like VMWare's Installer.

If you don't worry about distros like Ubuntu, Mind, Solus, Redhat, OpenSuse or ArchLinux etc.

I hope you understand me.  Sorry my bad English!

• Best regards 

[AxelMatt]

As far as I know there's actually no plan to support Linux. 

But: If it's so important for you the please post in Abobe's Bug-/Wishlist-Forum (https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html)  or like an existing entry.

This here is a public forum and not the support from Adobe. We are all normal users as you.