Thanks for the code ...... and I could not AGREE MORE .... on the not intuative !! I could see the theory EASILY. The technical is easier on artists who already are using pens, brushes and what they accomplish in technique. I am really a writer that got into logo and website work by accident. I took over work from another company. We have a community college here and I attempted to hire a paid intern to work along side me. That listing is still up but even working with the head instructor I don't have an intern. Illustrator could tip the novices and either offer free basic training or direct them to LYNDA... or similar. The problem really is the business model. Cheap monthly assess.... getting lowered even further all the time ....and users DONT NECCESSARILY know how complex and capable Illustrator is I do want full training and i will take advantage of your nice offer. I also find that certain instructors are WAY BETTER than others especially on video. So a trial makes sense for any training. On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:39 AM, theangietaylor <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

this is the original artwork with didn't appear to get added to the last reply and all part of the the consuming frustration of just trying to show some one our work. THANKFULLY we have phones that can easily screen shot and text rapidly for everyday life or we would have to give up On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Wynn Lare <ripplecreektweet@gmail.com> ... View more

​This is the image I have been trying to trace. The screen shots were placed in PDF files and attached here, which may not be allowed. In which case I would have to try and see if Ican find the shots in a folder on my laptop and put them into file type of PNG as an upload...... using the photo icon on the bottom won't support a PDF .... there are different issues going on here. Importing files to Ilustrator and opening them properly, getting Image trace to react and then trying to send documentation to SHOW the work. And obstacles at every turn. I have been scouring a lot of advise and I like your suggestion to open a file for the web. I did read at one point to have a file to place into that "already has raster art" that didnt make sense UNTIL NOW. i did try looking at your LYNDA on isolation, currently I am not a LYNDA subscriber but I have already been thinking about it. All these subscription models take time and money and i think all of us have to budget BOTH. I dont use forums to solve my problems typically. Certainly not before read and watch and TRY plenty of ideas FIRST. IF you can't see my files i will have to try and save the screen shots as PNG and hope that works to upload through the photo icon at the bottom here on GMAIL. THANKS !! On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:54 PM, theangietaylor <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

Much more helpful ....very specific instructions..... not vague 'use the Web interface'...which was suggested.... and means really nothing. Moderators....might like to know users can now use Photoshop...and lllustrator on mobile ....and as a result the forums may me replied to ON MOBILE Mobile is frequently NOT OPTIMIZED....or function is missing.... and no different here in this forum Which I think for newer users is an -automatic expectation...... As far as the .PNG....I do expect that to be a raster.... almost always (if not always)?.. they are ....coming off the web.... And I have image traced numerous times ...four different versions of this file... Including image trace make Image trace make expand ... I have seen black on white .. white on black... outline ... I just CAN'T SELECT IT. . I even tried file place AFTER the image trace .... I have seen the vectoring....and checked on "make pixel perfect"....just to see the message returned I will jump on to my laptop in a bit when I get home and follow your instructions to send screen shots Thank you for being so thorough..... On Sep 24, 2017 10:34 AM, "Larry G. Schneider" <forums_noreply@adobe.com> ... View more

You must be kidding. .... You might ask how I got here ...... I have been pouring over 6 books I have for over three months to learn Illustrator  ....I have watched probably 100 videos at least And read at least 200 articles multiple times and have saved them. I don't ask for HELP LIGHTLY saying ..'it's a panel".... doesn't help... I'm fact your response should be DELETED it's so useless ...... Why are you bothering to reply..? I thought I sent four screen shots .... I will check .... As far as I am concerned this is an operating system bug unique to Windows 7... I found another thread with nearly IDENTICAL PROBLEMS.... They suggested transform and scale to a percentage ...which I HAVE DONE .... my artwork is now less than one by one inch .....and vectored....but I still can't select it ... This whole problem is likely how Illustrator is opening the files.... Which ARE COMING FROM MY GOOGLE DRIVE... in PNG....and copied to my USB....then opened in llustrator since OTHERWISE it is cloud to cloud computing and not possible ... View more

Monica specifically has been asking me to provide screen shots. I learned how to screen shot and insert into PDF files. I am so new to Illustrator I created a 13 wide by 8 inch high file to paste the shots. One file here is an actual AI file after image trace, which I never got a image trace dialog box just a few options including BLACK AND WHITE LOGO which I choose. I can't seem to 'DO ANYTHING WITH THIS OBJECT' if it is even an object. These shots are pretty much all I can do with this traced image, which does seemed to have been traced successfully, I need this to be TINY ... about 21 points....haha...right now it's closer to 21"... I am SO LOST.... it looks good...... but I can't do anything with the trace. ANY HELP..... greatly appreciated...... On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Wynn Lare <ripplecreektweet@gmail.com> ... View more

Thanks .....this forum is really a lifesaver. Something QUITE UNUSUAL is happening with this vectored art ... It was a poster I made in a quote app on mobile .... Just 'two letters' I wanted to show,a client .....that might work for a logo Months later ... I did locate the 'hand drawn' font it came from and the person drawing them does offer FREE USE... With a Chrome Extension. ...but that was 'blowing up my Chrome' The problem is.. it's coming in HUGE about 20 x 36 inches ..... for TWO LETTERS And my archaic..."Windows Photo Viewer' isn't helping This is 'one of those off-track digital journeys.....we ALL HAVE TAKEN' DAYS...if not weeks later.... trying to do something basic... I have transferred and opened these files through Adobe Creative capture on mobile .... gmail attachment's. ..Google drive ....etc all PNG FORMAT I never get a result that Illustrator is treating 'normal'. Even the IMAGE TRACE was 'doing its own thing' .. it wasn't appearing as a dialog box... or a command in the top line no matter how many work views I trled and reset to default... such as Layout view...... Essentials.... Typography...... Collectively.... I think this forum is going to solve this ... I will next go to my laptop and send sone screen shots .... THANK YOU ALL FOR SO MUCH HELP ... View more

Thanks for the help in isolation mode. I have drawn a marquee around the two letters several times ....that gets me the ability to alternately see the paths with their drawing points. I HAVE .....  ... been in isolation mode as a 'try and see'  and the two letters really can't have much of anything 'done to them'....(no selecting with either selection tool....).. I will get back to my laptop and send some screen shots. This is going to help someone else ....no doubt ....when it gets solved. ... View more

I don't have a full solution yet. Image Trace and Expand was selected and did vector the TWO LETTERS (that is all I am tracing) I am on mobile. I know attachments aren't allowed. Do you know how I can send a screen shot ....? Should I sent forum replies from my laptop only ? The ARTBOARD....is HUGE I think 20 by 35 inches. I have zero idea why these two letters are so big I can't do anything besides turn the path on or off. No selecting......possible. 'Somehow' .....messing around I was able to fill one of the letters. But I can't replicate. I am on an old laptop. Windows 7 with 4GIGs... of Ram.... But NO SPEED PROBLEMS.... this is perplexing .... If someone can tell be how to send shots of this I would love to.... ... View more

I started repying two other times and got sidetracked. I am just now getting to trying this advice. I am hoping I get this to work..... and very happy to see a possible solution. I have been sitting on it several weeks ...reading here and there .... Gradually learning more Illustrator... I am building brand literature such as brochures websites labels.... letterhead and signs. My big learning curve has been the drawing NOT SURPRISINGLY. The text I have figured out a lot more..... Thanks for the help. ... View more

I appreciate your help. I had to do a few other tasks and I have to figure out how to include a pic..... I will try and show my results. I am brand new to forums so I need to learn how. ... View more

I forgot to mention...... I did do 'show paths' which gets me all the anchor points ..... But I can't select anything ....... ... View more

Ha... Thanks ! I like the Ignore White suggestion On Expand ...I will have to learn a bit more...I don't know enough about the command I didn't know the swatches are kept out when you do File Place... . I did choose Black and White Logo on Image Trace Thanks for the help..... ... View more