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eugenep55
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eugenep55
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‎Aug 01, 2019
09:41 AM
Thanks all of you for your kind help. I begin to see what my problems have been... (and are!) Firstly, no JPG. You have made this very clear. The lines in the artwork are anti-aliased; this is quite necessary for the drawings. However, when I saved the original PSD this time in PNG format, the resulting image was much better! At 100% zoom, of course. I believe that I have been fooled by opening different formats of image when I did not inspect these at 100%. When the PNG file opens in PS, the default is often 25% or 16.7%, and so on. At that zoom the lines look even feinter than a JPG version. I must have wrongly assumed that the lines would be feint and the problem persisted. In fact, here is a save to PNG from the original PSD. This image looks pretty close to the PSD when open with Multiply layers. Certainly much better than a JPG! A big improvement from which I can try new avenues regarding printing. I take it from some comments here that TIFF is preferred for that purpose, so I'll look into that as well. Thanks again so much for your help, all of you. I am sad to report that rather than some kind of intriguing PS anomaly we have simply got the usual case of User Error!
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‎Aug 01, 2019
03:40 AM
I see... so, JPG format is not correct for this kind of work, then? Is PNG the preferred format? Or, if not, what would be the best format to save this kind of artwork? Thanks chaps. I'll save these again in the recommended format and re-post.
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‎Jul 31, 2019
03:02 AM
Ah, sorry-- that would be while opening the artwork in any viewing software which I have owned. Any version of MS fax/image viwer, PS, In-Des, GifView, Ifran, Micrografix, Office, and so on... many types of software. However, here are some images for examination. The first image [test-drawing_original] is a save of the original PSD drawing (e.g. one layer) from PS as a JPG rgb-8, 600 dpi, 1 px lines. This is the same intensity as seen in any viewing software, and also as the image prints (on many platofrms, but let's leave the bewildering world of printing aside for now!). Next image [screen-Capture] is a screen capture of PS on my laptop showing the extra layer 'trick'. Zoom = 100%. Here there are two copies of the original layer, both using Multiply blend mode. I hope you can see that the lines on my screen are much darker and more "saturated", if that is the correct term, than the single layer alone. The last image [test-drawing_layers] shows a jpg save to rgb-8 from the PSD with these extra multiply layers enabled. The resulting line artwork is darker than the original (one layer) drawing, but not as dark as in the 3-layer PSD while looking at PS. I hope these jpgs appear for you as they do on my various computers.
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‎Jul 30, 2019
09:12 AM
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Thank you all for your helpful comments. I'll try to elaborate further with reference to those observations. When I open the resulting flattened image in any format (as mentioned), the resulting lines are feinter (noticably) than the original unflattened PSD. Indeed, it is true that viewing these line drawings at less than 100% results in a 'washed-out' appearance due to the zoom, but that is not the ultimate problem. I have the same problem in all colour modes-- greyscale, rgb, cmyk, 8-bit, 16-bit, duoscale.. I have tried everything I can think of. In all cases, the resulting effect is identical. I find it equally confusing that some improvement is seen when making copies in jpg using this 'multiply' method (which I mentioned). If the lines are drawn as 1 px with a 100% opacity, why should this make any difference? But it does. Still, however, not enough for my satisfaction. Moreover-- and here is the real problem-- the artwork prnts out in the same feint manner; and, equally, darker with the 'multiply' versions. I don't understand. I will attempt to create a sample of what I am talking about. I do not know if a screen shot will actually show the artwork as it appears in PS, but that's what I'll try. Will return in a bit with that attachment. Thanks again everyone.
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‎Jul 28, 2019
04:12 AM
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Greetings All, I have an issue with PS (Win) which has flummoxed me for years. This behaviour is consistent in all of the versions of PS which I have owned, from 7.0 through to CS3-Extd. The Windows system does not seem to matter (Win 95 through to Win 10), neither the PC hardware nor related drivers. I am certain that this results from a programme setting or quirk; but which one? When working with detail drawings, eg in this case a line drawing making use of 1 px lines at 600 dpi, I find that copies saved into any of the formats TIFF, JPG, PNG, EPS, PDF, Raw and/or GIF result in feint lines. Not as dark and black as in the original PSD. Attempting to mitigate this problem, I have tried various colour settings and Greyscale options, all without success. Some small improvement can be seen when using various layers in the PSD set to Multiply mode, then individually shifted down (Ctl+E) and saved as an 8-bit JPG. Using the Flatten option seems to discard the apparent Multiply enhancements altogether. I should mention that then on-screen appearance of the line artwork in the PSD is correct and exactly as I wish the drawing to appear as a flattened file. Try as I might, however, I simply cannot obtain this result. Might any of you experienced PS masters out there have any thoughts or suggestions on this matter? Any help would be very greatfully received!
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