P: Camera Raw & DNG: Sony RX100 raw + low res JPEG shots are misidentified as being cropped

If you can't get the "Recover Edges" plug-in to work, then the quickest way out of the problem is to open the images into DPP (where the images aren't cropped), then save them as Tiffs which you can import back into Lightroom.

I'll have a look at the Recover Edges plug-in when I get some time to see if I can figure out why it isn't working for you.

The same problem will exist in Lightroom 5, I believe.

Hey guys,
I have found that someone was having the same problem as me after finding this link:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/10953...

Basically I stupidly set my Canon 5D MK3 to 'add cropping information' to the display to highlight an 8x10 so I could use this as a guide as we had to shoot in this aspect ratio for a class assignment. When I try to import into Lightroom (and Photoshop for that matter) both applications do not recognise the original image as a whole and crop to an 8x10, hence I lose some of the information at the top/bottom of the image (even though I can see this in the RAW .CR2 file itself). I have added the plug called 'DNG Recover Edges' into Lightroom but this only works on a DNG (obviously) and even when I convert the .CR2 file into DNG I lose this information 😞 I am desperate to get this back as I recently went to Brazil and some of photos have been cropped which means I sometimes lose the tops of peoples heads even though I can see the whole image cleary as a RAW .CR2 file.

Does Lightroom 5 or Photoshop CC fix this? (I am using Lightroom 4 and Photoshop CS5 at the moment...

PLEASE HELP!

Done.

Can you send me the raw+jpeg pairs? madmanchan2000@yahoo.com (yousendit.com, dropbox, etc.)

Yes, I'm afraid so. See this screenshot, hope you can make out the relevant details.

I'll try to do some further testing, maybe there's a setting combination which triggers this....

That is not my experience. In my testing, I shot several images with the 5D III in raw + jpeg mode, and the jpeg images are indeed pre-cropped. For example, a "large" JPEG shot in 1:1 aspect ratio mode has 3840 x 3840 pixels.

Are you getting different results in your testing?

Eric, yes that does make sense.....except for the fact that the JPEGs are NOT pre-cropped. Here's an extract from the 5DIII user guide in relation to the C.Fn3 menu item "Add Cropping Information":



The intention then seems to be to allow DPP to recognise the "cropping information" and do the cropping, but it is not done in camera. So the net affect is that Lightroom is recognising that cropping information with respect to the RAW file, and cropping accordingly, but isn't doing it for the associated JPEG. Hence my original point that the RAW and JPEG appear differently....one cropped, the other not.

It's not expected that a JPEG would be treated differently than a raw. However, it is the case that JPEGs are pre-cropped by the camera, whereas raw files are not. ACR/LR should be looking at the in-camera setting for the aspect ratio (I believe available in the Custom Settings for the 5D III) and cropping the raw file to respect that chosen aspect ratio (thereby matching the JPEG, if you're shooting raw+jpeg). Hope that makes sense.

Thanks. So taking the 7D out of the picture and talking only about the 5D3, why is a Jpeg treated differently to a Raw? Is that also the expected behaviour, as it doesn't feel quite right to me.

This is handled on a per-model basis. Respecting the in-camera crop setting was specifically added to the 5D III when we added support for that model. It was not added for the 7D (an older model). What you are seeing is expected behavior.