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February 20, 2022

P: Noise artifacts produced by enhance details

  • February 20, 2022
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The enhance details feature appears to produce some rectangular and square noise artifacts in the processed image. My baseline is a daylight RAW landscape (call it X1) photograph taken at ISO 100. The artifacts appear in the upper half of the photo (a partly cloudy region above a mountain range).

 

Lightroom Version: 11.2

OS Version: Windows 10 Pro, Build 19044.1526

 

The steps outlined below are intended to illustrate the difference in images produced by Lightroom's baseline demosaicing algorithm with the "enhance details" demosaicing algorithm. Of course, the artifacts could be due to issues with the baseline algorithm ... but I doubt this is the case as it has been fielded for quite some time.

 

The TIFF comparison process (steps 11-19) has been successfully used to evaluate Lightroom sharpening and noise reduction combinations. Other than the "enhance details" DNG, I have not seen similar artifacts produced by Lightroom.

 

Steps to reproduce the are as follows:

1) Import X1 (RAW) into Lightroom

2) Reset all settings (note, the baseline profile is Adobe Color and WB is "as shot")

3) Disable "Detail" sharpening and noise reduction by moving all sliders to 0 (i.e., Amount, Luminance, Color; note, lens corrections are not selected - the goal is export an image processed by only the baseline demosaicing algorithm)

4) Export this file as "X1_Norm_NoSharpNoNR.tif" (300 ppi, sRGB, 16 bits/component)

5) Enhance details (Raw Details only)

6) Open the DNG produced by enhanced details

7) Reset all settings

😎 Disable "Detail" sharpening and noise reduction by moving all sliders to 0 (i.e., Amount, Luminance, Color)

9) Export this file as "X1_Enha_NoSharpNoNR.tif" (300 ppi, sRGB, 16 bits/component)

10) Exit Lightroom

11) Start Photoshop

12) Open files produced by steps 4 and 9 in Photoshop

13) Convert both images to grayscale using Image/Mode 

14) Convert both images to Smart Objects 

15) Duplicate one of the layers and place in other other image as Layer 1

16) Select both layers with the "Difference" option

17) Select Layer/New Adjustment Layer/Threshold

18) Set threshold to 1

19) Adjust view to actual size and 100% to see artifacts

 

I converted the TIFF file produced by steps 1-18 to a low-resolution JPEG and attached to this post. 

 

 

 

13 replies

Participant
November 17, 2025

Just here to say that at the end of 2025, the bug persists... 

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 2, 2023

@924840 

This thread will be your first source of information regarding future fixes for this issue.  

When a fix is released, this thread will change from Investigating to Fixed. Information about unreleased products, features and fixes are not provided in advance of release. 

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Known Participant
August 2, 2023

...and following on from my message just now,  Chat Help seem to not want to talk to me about it at all!  Thats the second time been rejected this afternoon 😕😕

Known Participant
August 2, 2023

Hi,

Any news on the fix for this?

Its been nearly 10 months since I initially reported it and my case was raised, and 1.5 years since the original report it was merged with. An awfully long time when in Jan was told it would be in the Feb update. Ive been using Luminar AI instead, for actual processing, plus Adobe memebership have kindly paused my Monthly Plan Subscription since March.

Earth Oliver
Legend
April 22, 2023

Can confirm i see the blocks here too. This seems like a fairly significant issue that should have been fixed in the 14 months since it was originally reported. 

I've also bugged similar artifacts created by the Ps Neural Filters over the past year and a half.

Known Participant
April 20, 2023

Ah, update on my last comment!  The blocks are STILL there, just seem to have been reduced/"blurred"  a little with the DeNoise added as well, so not quite as noticeable in the colour image. If look at the Sharpening/At-Mask view the blocks appear a bit different and there is more "texture" in the background sky.

Known Participant
April 20, 2023

Hi,

Just loaded 12.3. Thought it might fix this bug, but not listed in the fixes.  However, saw there was a new RAW Details menu, to include the DeNoise. Ran the RAW through the original RAW-Details only and the blocks appear as before.  But then incuded the DeNoise (which must admit to an age to run, compared with the quick RAW-Details, Core i7+GPU, but thats another issue) and the blocks were not there. Well, at least from a first quick look.

So is the new Denoise code removing the blocks, or is the RAW-Details code that runs with DeNoise, different to the RAW-Details only code?

Is the RAW-Details Only going to be fixed also, for times when dont wan to run DeNoise?

Cheers.

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
March 31, 2023

@NickFrancis21 
When an update is available it will be posted to this thread. 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Known Participant
March 31, 2023

Hi,

Now these seperate reports merged into one, couldnt see how to reply to my original, so try here...

Any update on a fix for this problem?

If no then will have to contact Customer Support again to get a 3rd free month, else my payments will start again.

Cheers,

Nick

 

Known Participant
December 17, 2022

Hi,

Just recently noticed that the Raw Details to dng coversion is generating large blocks in image. Noticeable in  less detailed areas like sky. See the blocks either side of mountain and around rest of sky below.  Not seen this before (deliberately turned up contrast for this jpg, so can see blocks more easily). More visible in less saturated areas or B&W develop settings. Note they are distinct blocks rather than general banding. If apply same develop settings to the original RAF file the blocks not seen. So RAW Details seems to be causing it.  The blocks also export in the jpg image. Tried disabling GPU and checked other basic settings, cleared cache, etc   Also the blocks appear in the dng, sent to PS.  Looked at older images and dngs cant see same problem.

Anyone else seen this effect?

Fuji XT30 mk1, Core i7, LR 12.0.1, Windows 11 latest

 

Known Participant
December 17, 2022

Just looked at image with Sharpening; Alt_Masking. Can see Block edges and bands....