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duncanbirnie
Participant
April 14, 2018

P: Sony a7III Camera Profiles are Broken

  • April 14, 2018
  • 25 replies
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Hello! Never had a need to post here so hope this is the right place.

I'm the proud owner of Sony's new a7III, so I've been shooting a lot recently putting it through it's paces. Lightroom finally got support for the camera with v7.3, so I've been digging through my RAWs. Very happy except I did notice a few odd artefacts on a few shots, but nothing that caused too much concern... UNTIL NOW!!

Basically, it seems that either my versions of the Camera Profiles or indeed Lightroom's overall are broken. At first I thought it could be to do with compressed vs. uncompressed RAW, but Sony's own RAW viewing software does not exhibit these issues. OBSERVE!

Exhibit A:

This is unprocessed in Lightroom with the Camera Standard profile applied.

Exhibit B:

This is the same shot using the Adobe Color profile. 

All the horrendous image noise/compression/whatever has gone, and the detail and smooth gradients are fine, the same as Sony's software. So, not a camera or RAW issue and this persists across all the profiles marked as Camera Matching... but does not exist in any of Adobe's profiles.

A ploy to try and persuade me to use Adobe colour profiles?! Maybe! But I thought you should be aware of it as clearly, something isn't being processed right by the Camera Matching profiles. I also went back to some of the images I'd spotted artefacts in... they were all fixed by using the Adobe profiles not the Camera Matching ones.

I appreciate it's early days with the new profile system, but if there's anything anyone can suggest I'd be very grateful. Hopefully it's an issue only I'm experiencing, otherwise there's a lot of other unhappy a7III Lightroom users right now!

FYI, I have reinstalled both Lightroom and Photoshop before posting here, and this happens on images of a variety of ISOs and noise levels... it's a software thing and I was just using this night image because of the transition from light pollution to sky (and it's the worst I've seen it). Also, this happens in Photoshop with Camera RAW using the same profiles.

Thanks,
Duncan

25 replies

Inspiring
May 18, 2018

Just wanna join in here
and report that I have the same issue.


See these two images (100% crop) of the results of the Camera Neutral and the Adobe Neutral profiles. See the edges of the bottles in the background.





And I have examples of noisy patches in gradient areas similar to the other images here.

I'm hoping for an update soon.

Best regards, 

Torben

ssprengel
Inspiring
May 18, 2018
Cai, do you have an example A7R III raw image you could share that shows the harsh edges in out-of-focus areas like the cat photo, earlier?  I am not seeing such edges in one sample A7R III image I've downloaded.
Todd Shaner
Legend
May 17, 2018
The A7R III yellow cast issue is discussed at a the below post and being investigated by Adobe Engineer Eric Chan. I suggest adding your 'Me To' vote and 'Follow' there:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/camera-standard-profile-for-a7r-iii-is-terrib...
Participant
May 17, 2018
The issue is the same with the a7riii, any updates on this model regarding the yellow cast?
ssprengel
Inspiring
May 16, 2018
I installed the recent Photoshop CC 2018 19.1.4 release, and while the Camera Raw version remained the same at 10.3, the Camera Raw plug-in version of these bad Camera-match profiles for the A7 III were deleted as part of the PS install process, although the LR version of the profiles remain.  Hopefully the next version of the camera raw engine for both PS and LR will fix them.
Inspiring
May 16, 2018
I have discovered the same problem, even though I use RawTherapee instead of Lightroom. Therefore the problem is not with LR or RT, but with the dcp files:
Inspiring
May 15, 2018
When will the correction of this luggage come out ?? Already passed a whole month!
Participant
May 11, 2018
When will the fix be available?
Participant
May 11, 2018
when will the fix be available?
MadManChan2000
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
May 3, 2018
Yes, the fix will also work on previously-captured & imported raw files.