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January 16, 2019
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An update on my planned retirement from hardware upgrades...

  • January 16, 2019
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Back in August of 2018 I had planned a virtual retirement from hardware upgrading. But now with CC 2019 now here and requiring me to update some hardware once again, I am contemplating pulling out my miniITX i7-7700 PC from dormancy and putting my i7-4790K tower PC into semi-retirement. The holdup was that the i7-7700 has only 16 GB of RAM while the i7-4790K has 32 GB of RAM.

To attain that goal without spending much if any money on new parts I am planning to move my currently in-use GTX 1060 6 GB card, 512 GB Samsung 850 PRO SSD and Pioneer BD-R/RW drive into the mini-ITX PC and remove personal software from my current PC and possibly refresh the OS installation on the older PC.

Does that sound like a good plan? Or shall I get all-new hardware, such as a new CPU, motherboard, RAM and possibly an m.2 PCIe SSD or two, given my current financial situation (being on LOA from my day job, with possibly zero income)?

I would really appreciate your answers.

Randall

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    RjL190365Author
    Legend
    November 8, 2019

    With me working again now after my heart transplant earlier this year, I am getting back into the upgrade game. I am well set on my current GPUs, but now I want to update/upgrade my CPU platform on my main PC (which still has the i7-4790K from five years ago) by this Christmas.

     

    I am thinking about either an AMD Ryzen 3000-series or an Intel i7 or i9-9xxx series. And I will be planning to purchase a new motherboard, new RAM and one new m.2 PCIe SSD with this upgrade.

     

    When that's done, I will move my GTX 1060 to this refreshed main PC and move the 1050 Ti to my mini-PC.

     

    Oh, boy... The cycle never ends!

     

    Randall

    RjL190365Author
    Legend
    March 28, 2019

    I did a PPBM test with the GTX 1050 Ti, and compared it to the GTX 1060 - both in the same i7-4790K PC overclocked to 4.7 GHz:

    MPEG-2 DVD (MPE CUDA on):

    GTX 1050 Ti: 37 seconds

    GTX 1060: 24 seconds

    H.264 Blu-ray (MPE CUDA on):

    GTX 1050 Ti: 111 seconds

    GTX 1060: 91 seconds

    Although this performance difference looks big on paper, it actually amounts to very little in real life. As a matter of fact, the GTX 1050 Ti performs about equal to the Kepler-generation GTX 660 when it comes to HD-to-MPEG-2 DVD rendering/export performance (and this in spite of my particular GTX 660 being a factory overclocked card while the particular GTX 1050 Ti that I chose is clocked at reference clock speeds). However, like most other Pascal GPUs, the GTX 1050 Ti is faster in H.264 Blu-ray exports than most of the Kepler GPUs. And despite having only 768 CUDA cores and an effective CUDA memory throughput of 105.6 GB/s (compared to 960 CUDA cores and an actual CUDA memory throughput of 144 GB/s in the Kepler GTX 660), it actually outperforms the 1,024-CUDA-core Maxwell GTX 960 (with its effective CUDA memory throughput of only 96 GB/s) in all of my GPU-intensive tests - and this despite the GTX 1050 Ti being clocked at its reference clocks while the GTX 960 was heavily overclocked at the factory that manufactured the card.

    And while the GTX 1060 is still more powerful than the GTX 1050 Ti, the 1050 Ti may be a better fit for lower-end PCs with eight or fewer CPU cores and 16 GB of RAM (a typical configuration for such mainstream PC builds).

    And by the way: The problems with the GTX 1050 Ti came largely from those people who bought massively factory overclocked cards - and that can, and in some cases does, cause problems in Premiere Pro CC and other CUDA productivity apps.

    Randall

    Stan Jones
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    Community Expert
    March 28, 2019

    Thanks for reporting! Sorry I don't have much to offer at the moment...

    RjL190365Author
    Legend
    March 28, 2019

    Now if you were wondering why I did not go for a GTX 1660 or GTX 1660 Ti or an RTX GPU, it's because the GTX 1660 (non-Ti) would have been only a sideways-grade from my GTX 1060 to justify its price, while (at close to $300 USD and up) the GTX 1660 Ti and the RTX series GPUs all cost more money than I wanted to spend for the foreseeable future.

    Stan Jones
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    Community Expert
    January 17, 2019

    I can't be of much use, but I like the way you are thinking. I'd like to do a big new build, but the options are just mind-numbing. And more than once, I've headed down the road of beefing my i7 930, RAM 24GB, GTX 760 (2GB VRAM). So far I still have CUDA.

    The best thing I've done is to add SSD (not M.2 since my system won't support it).

    But my system is behind your ITX, and anything I might do would be wasted toward any future build.

    A real dilemma.

    RjL190365Author
    Legend
    February 2, 2019

    Thanks. For the foreseeable future the decision is made for me. Since my mini-ITX system supports m.2 SSDs, I think I will add a 500 GB or 1 TB PCIe 3.0 x4 m.2 NVMe SSD to that PC while moving the needed critical components to that bread-box. A new GPU or additional DDR4 RAM is at this time significantly more expensive than what I really want to spend.

    Stan Jones
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    Community Expert
    February 2, 2019

    Good luck! Let us know how it runs...