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Inspiring
May 7, 2012
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Blackmagic Intensity Pro Output

  • May 7, 2012
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So I thought that with CS6, pretty much any sequence could ouput via my BlackMagic Intensity Pro, and I didn't have to be in a BM sequence. Well, I have found that I am restricted by resolution and framerate - I have to be in a 720p60 sequence or nothing will output to my TV (which is a 720p TV). This is quite a problem as I am almost exlcusively working in 1080p24 sequences. Am I doing something wrong? Or have I misenterpretted the capabilities? FCP was able to pretty much ouput any seq/frame rate with the card.

-sam

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    May 10, 2012

    Yep all that is kinda frustrating! And another thing is in my case i have 1080p25 footage and use it ( have to) in a 1080i50 sequence.

    1st issue: a short but really noticaable delay on my external screen. and 2nd issue: i can't see anything that is in the "Source" monitor (cuz it plays back 25p in that one)

    ...well maybe a lil Blackmagic Mini Converter can help? (like the HDMI to SDI or UpDownCross...)

    Inspiring
    May 8, 2012

    Worth pointing out, when I copy/pasted 4K RED R3D files into a DSLR 720p60 sequence, scale to fit, half res playback, it played back quite nicely on the TV screen with no rendering. No CUDA graphics card, 12 gigs ram on 8 Core Mac Pro. I do have a Red Rocket installed, but I turned it off to see how much of a difference it was making, and it seemed to still be playing pretty well.

    So, if it wasn't for the framerate/resolution sequence issues, this would be pretty amazing.

    -sam

    Legend
    May 9, 2012

    4K RED R3D files

    And there's another point.  How many folks using 4K media will actually have a 4K monitor?  You NEED that real time conversion from all output cards.

    Inspiring
    May 9, 2012

    FCP changed the output IN THE APP.  If you were running a 1080p 23.98...and you didn't have a monitor that supported that...you could tell FCP to send out a 1080i 29.97 signal.  Then the signal going from FCP to the IO device would be 29.97.  The VIEW>VIdeo Playback was where you changed this.  And you could change it to 720p 59.94 if you wanted, and the 1080p 23.98 signal would be converted by FCP to 720p 59.94.  FCP did that, not the IO devices.

    For the record, this is something Avid does too...the locking the output to match the sequence.  The project settings determine the output settings, and they cannot be changed.  You can have the card, via it's interface, change the signal. At least in the AJA Control panel.

    When I'm done rendering in COLOR, I'll see how the Kona 3 interacts with CS6...

    Inspiring
    May 8, 2012

    I think it is mainly the fact that in FCP I could send pretty much any sequence, regardless of framerate or resolution, through the BM card to the 720p TV and it would play back fine. So I know it can be done. I know it's an entirely different process than with Premiere, but just seeing it work 2-3 years ago in FCP, and now with the newest Premiere it still doesn't work, it's frustrating. If FCP was unable to do it, then my expectations would be different.

    -sam

    Inspiring
    May 8, 2012

    I have same thoughts as CSTeam3 - I expected it to work because it had worked in FCP for me previously. I have a professional HD broadcast monitor I haven't tried it on yet, but I am willing to bet it would work there. The HDTV I am trying to get it to play on is just for client previewing, and we don't really need a top-of-the-line pro monitoring solution there. It's just frusterating because FCP never had any problems with it, and all the prerelease info about mercury transmit led me to believe that Premiere would be able to as well.

    Even if I had to make a Blackmagic 1080p24 sequence to always edit from it wouldn't be so bad, but even using BM's sequences, I have to use 720p60 or I won't get anything.

    -sam

    Community Expert
    May 7, 2012

    Does it matter how the 'default video standard' is set in the BMD Video 9.5 control panel?

    Richard Knight

    Inspiring
    May 7, 2012

    No, I tried to change that to 1080p23.98, and it did nothing. And the BM manual said that only FCPX uses that option.

    -sam

    Inspiring
    May 7, 2012

    redprod,

    Has your problem been resolved?

    I am anxious to hear Adobe Mercury Transmit success stories!

    What's the best third party hardware for CS6 Adobe Mercury Transmit?