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January 30, 2019
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E5-2690v2 compatible with Premiere Pro

  • January 30, 2019
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Hey all,

I've got a home server with Dual E5-2690v2's and was hoping I could run Premiere Pro CC on that for the extra grunt.

However the minimum specs on the Adobe website say I need a 6th Gen Intel Processor for hardware acceleration. Is that correct?

Was hoping to use a GTX 1060 and the Dual E5's to increase my render speed as my main PC is a Surface Book which is painfully slow.

Any assistance on the topic would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

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    Correct answer RjL190365

    Sorry, I think you are misunderstanding. I know I can't use Hardware Acceleration with the Xeon's only, I'm asking why I can't use those Xeon's + the 1060 for Hardware Acceleration. As per this document.

    Hardware-accelerated H.264 encoding
    • Mac OS 10.13 (or later) on Mac hardware from 2016 or later
    • Windows 10 with 6th Generation (or later) Intel® Core™ processors and Intel Graphics enabled
    Hardware-accelerated HEVC encoding
    • Mac OS 10.13 (or later) on Mac hardware from 2016 or later
    • Windows 10 with 7th Generation (or later) Intel® Core™ processors and Intel Graphics enabled

    Does the above not apply if I have a discrete graphics card?


    Integrated graphics is REQUIRED and ENABLED in order for the H.264 hardware acceleration to even work at all. If you have a qualifying CPU but then DISABLE the Intel HD Graphics in the EFI, then you cannot have hardware H.264 encoding acceleration at all. And as I noted in my previous post, your dual-Xeons (or any high-end large-socket CPUs at all) does not have any integrated Intel HD graphics whatsoever, so you cannot have hardware acceleration at all.

    So, the ONLY way to have both H.264 and MPE acceleration with a discrete GPU would have been to connect your monitors only to the discrete GPU ports but then force the Intel HD Graphics to ALWAYS ENABLED in the EFI. (The default setting for this is AUTO, which disables any GPU whose ports are not being used.) But if you connect a monitor to the motherboard video-out port, then you will "block" (or "lock out") the discrete GPU from ever using MPE GPU acceleration, and thus only the integrated Intel HD Graphics will be used for MPE acceleration.

    Thus, with your dual Xeons you cannot have hardware-accelerated encoding in any case - even with a discrete GPU. (There is a third-party NVENC plugin for H.26x accelerated encoding via CUDA, but Adobe does not endorse or support it - at least not yet.)

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    RjL190365
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    January 30, 2019

    I would not suggest any dual-CPU PC for Premiere Pro because such systems have significantly greater latency than any single-CPU system. You see, although the QPI between the two CPUs is relatively fast, it is still significantly slower than any in-single-CPU connection.

      acesi7
      acesi7Author
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      January 30, 2019

      Thanks heaps for getting back to me so quickly.

      I'm planning on running it as a VM (Unless you all think this is crazy). So I can give it full affinity with 1 CPU to limit the QPI restriction between the CPUs, and pass through 1 GPU, again only if it's possible/worth while.

      I would have imagined that E5-2690v2 (10 core, 20 thread, 3.0-3.6ghz) would be faster than the i7 8650U (4 core, 8 thread 1.9-4.2ghz) in the Surface Book 2, even with only the 10 core passed through to the VM. Or is that incorrect.

      Apologies if these are obvious answers, I'm pretty new to video editing, and couldn't find anything on my specific situation.

      R
      RjL190365
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      January 31, 2019

      Not always. That Ivy Bridge EP CPU (E5-2690 v2) is actually slightly less efficient per clock cycle than the newer-gen Kaby Lake Refresh CPU (i7-8650U). As such, the Xeon is faster than the 8650U, if only because of its substantially higher sustainable all-core Turbo clock speed. The U-series mobile CPUs can only sustain about 2.4 to 2.5 GHz, depending on cooling, on all four simultaneous cores.

        Ann Bens
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        Ann BensCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        January 30, 2019

        However the minimum specs on the Adobe website say I need a 6th Gen Intel Processor for hardware acceleration. Is that correct?

        That is correct.

        You can use the gtx  for the MPE.

        Read this on what cuda does and does not do

        CUDA, OpenCL, Mercury Playback Engine, and Adobe Premiere Pro | Adobe Blog

          acesi7
          acesi7Author
          Participating Frequently
          January 30, 2019

          First off, thanks for getting back to me so quickly!

          Secondly, So the E5-2690v2's are 3rd Gen Intel (Ivy Bridge). So does this mean I won't be able to utilize a GPU at all? Do you know what technology this Xeon doesn't have that is required?

          Thanks for your help!

          R
          RjL190365
          Legend
          January 31, 2019

          As to your question of that E5 Xeon, no, you will not be able to utilize hardware H.264 accelerated encoding because it lacks integrated graphics, and thus it requires a discrete GPU just to even work at all. No Socket 20xx CPUs have integrated graphics at all!

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