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Which GPU for CS5.5?

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April 21, 2011
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Here's some interesting information.

"I asked Adobe to confirm my findings and the following statement: "When using an approved NVIDIA card, CS5.5 performs better using cards with more CUDA cores." A few days later I received a short but to-the-point email confirming that my statement is accurate."

Seems CS5.5 takes better advantage of the CUDA cores in a card, and additional cores now means some significant improvements.

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Review-Adobe-CS5.5-Production-Premium-74852.htm

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SubMark

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I'm having a little trouble understanding the results chart that Bill posted. I'm in the market for a card that will help with Adobe CS5.5 and I'm not sure which card to get. On the MPEG-2, H.264, and Render Timeine charts - I'm guessing the lower the number, the better? Is all of that rendering time?

It's funny because if so the GTX 550ti is competing with the 570 and 580, but the price is less than half of those cards. Which one of these cards would get me the best speed/performance ratio, the GTX 500ti? I'm still curious as to why that one looks like it performs so well considering it has half the cores...

Having half the cores seems like it would be half the performance but this chart is showing otherwise. Why is that?

Bill Gehrke

Inspiring

thared33 wrote:
I'm having a little trouble understanding the results chart that Bill posted. I'm in the market for a card that will help with Adobe CS5.5 and I'm not sure which card to get. On the MPEG-2, H.264, and Render Timeine charts - I'm guessing the lower the number, the better? Is all of that rendering time?
It's funny because if so the GTX 550ti is competing with the 570 and 580, but the price is less than half of those cards. Which one of these cards would get me the best speed/performance ratio, the GTX 500ti? I'm still curious as to why that one looks like it performs so well considering it has half the cores...
Having half the cores seems like it would be half the performance but this chart is showing otherwise. Why is that?

I am not sure where you would find a GTX 500 Ti

Yes the lower the number shows the better performance (faster encoding time).

Are you really asking which card will give you the best speed/cost ratio? That is subjective to your budget.

From my testing with a limited number of boards (unfortunately neither of these boards) I would guess that the GTX 560 Ti (384 cores)@ ~$230 or the GTX 560 (336 cores) @ ~$200 would be my performance/buck choice.

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jblanteignee

Participant

I have a question related to this topic, also, I know I type a lot, I just want to give as many details as possible, if you don't want to read my wall of text, please read the last line at the bottom, I tried to make it short down there. Thanks!

I'm not sure if I should make a thread for it but I figured I would start by replying here.

I recently ordered parts for a new computer that will mostly run premiere pro and after effects cs5.5. That includes the intel i7-2600k cpu and the gpu I chose was the GTX470 because I couldn't afford going with the 570.

Today I got my parts but they made a mistake with the GPU, I got the EVGA GTX560 Ti.. Looks like the store I bought my stuff from simply switched the older GTX 470 for the newer 560 Ti in their codes or something (the new card even is at the same price of the GTX470) so I got the wrong card without them even knowning they made a switch...

I know the GTX560 Ti is probably better for most people, but since it has less Graphics Processing Clusters (GPCs) and less Streaming Multiprocessors (SMs) and less CUDA Cores I'm wondering if I should keep the GTX560 or get a refund (well, it's their mistake after all) and buy something else.. I might get the GTX570 after all. The reason I ordered the GTX470 in the first place was because it was on the Adobe list of supported cards for the Mercury Playback Engine... I'm worried the 560 is not what I need.

TL:DR: I have a GTX 560 Ti, does it work with Mercury Playback Engine, is it a good card for After Effect and Premiere Pro CS 5.5 Or should I go with a GTX 470?

Thank you

Bill Gehrke

Inspiring

I have posted this before, the GTX 550 Ti works fine so the 560 Ti should even be better as it has twice as many cores

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jblanteignee

Participant

Thank you for your reply.

However, I'm wondering if the GTX560 is faster or slower (even though it's an older generation card) than the GTX470 for my use of the card. (Premiere Pro and After Effect CS5.5 playback, render, etc) Since I actually bought a GTX470 and recieved a 560, I want to get the best card.

I'm also considering upgrading from the 560 to a 570 if the performance with the softwares I use is really worth it... I wonder if there are benchmarks with Premiere Pro and AE.. All I can find are game benchmarks because those are gamer cards..

Thanks

PaulieDC

Inspiring

When it's released I'm gonna use Audition CS5.5 to write/record/mixdown a new song called "Jim and Harm Saved Me Buckets of Cash".

PaulieDC

Inspiring

Hey Gang, been out of the loop for a while, sounds like the hardware fun is still raging!

OK, simple question that y'all can answer much easier than me Googling: I have the EVGA GTX 470, and I can sell it for $220. The GTX 570 is $339 after rebate. For 50% more cash would I be getting 50% more chutzpah in real life? For reference: i7-950/24GB/PP CS5/yadda yadda yadda.

I know, I know, this is probably an old question by now...

Harm_Millaard

Inspiring

Paulie,

You will be hard pressed to notice any difference in performance. IMO it is not worth the extra cash. Those $ 120 may be better used for 2 additional hard disks.

PaulieDC

Inspiring

Excellent Harm, I was hoping to hear that. Actually, I'll save that $120 and put it towards the $399 PPCS5.5 upgrade. Thanks for the fast reply (as usual!) Paulie

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Burk Wagner

Participant

Will the current PPBM5 be usable with CS5.5, so that we can use a comparison of run results to answer some of these questions?

Harm_Millaard

Inspiring

Yes.

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RjL190365

Legend

Jim,

If you take a look at the official Adobe system requirements for Premiere Pro CS5.5, you will find that the officially supported GPU list has been expanded to now include all of the Fermi-based Quadros (both desktop/workstation and mobile) from the Quadro 2000 to the Quadro 6000, plus two new high-end GeForces (GTX 570 and GTX 580). Surprisingly, two older mobile pre-Fermi Quadros have also been added to the officially supported list. These are the GPUs that now no longer require the "cuda_supported_cards.txt" hack when CS5.5 is installed.

As a result, the default "cuda_supported_cards.txt" file in the Windows version of CS5.5 should now look like this:

GeForce GTX 285

GeForce GTX 470

GeForce GTX 570

GeForce GTX 580

Quadro CX

Quadro FX 3700M

Quadro FX 3800

Quadro FX 3800M

Quadro FX 4800

Quadro FX 5800

Quadro 2000

Quadro 2000D

Quadro 2000M

Quadro 3000M

Quadro 4000

Quadro 4000M

Quadro 5000

Quadro 5000M

Quadro 5010M

Quadro 6000

All other GeForce and Quadro GPUs will require the hack.

The GeForce GTX 570 or 580 would become the best choice for prosumers working with relatively simple AVCHD-based projects with relatively few layers, while the high-end Quadro 5000 or 6000 would be best for semi-professional editors working with many video layers.

Bill Gehrke

Inspiring

RjL190365 wrote:
The GeForce GTX 570 or 580 would become the best choice for prosumers working with relatively simple AVCHD-based projects with relatively few layers, while the high-end Quadro 5000 or 6000 would be best for semi-professional editors working with many video layers.

Randall

Is this your theory or do you have any rumors or facts to substantiate it? For instance my GTX 580 has more cores than any Quadro that I have looked at (yes it does have less video memory and that could be a factor, then there is a 3 GB version).

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RjL190365

Legend

Bill,

It may have something to do with the driver optimization. I was merely providing rough guidelines in my previous post.

And there has not yet been any results from CS5.5 yet because it has not yet been officially released. However, if I remember correctly that when the original CS5 first came out the GeForces were artificially limited to four layers maximum. The available drivers for GeForces are also limited to 8-bit color versus 10-bit color in the Quadros.

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