Will it 4k?

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September 7, 2017
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My goal is to edit 4k straight from my Sony a6500 and Phantom 4 Pro (h.264 files) directly in PP without creating Proxies. I just want to drag and drop and edit, applying Lumetri and a LUT for the most part.

Should this configuration make it possible?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700

GTX 1050ti

16gb DDR4 2400

500gb m.2 Drive for OS, PP, and Project / Footage

I'm trying to get this built for under $800-900

Thanks!

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exile1972

Inspiring

I think a computer upgrade is well worth it to avoid the proxy workflow. You'll need to double your ram and most likely you'll need to update your gpu as well. I have an i7-5820k cpu, a GTX 970 GPU, 32 gigs of ram and a Thunderbolt3 raid which allows me full res 4k playback without issue.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Um ... not at all clear why you wish to avoid proxies ... that seems well, silly to me. Unless you're doing a lot of time-ramping at least.

The media you're talking about is very long-GOP and highly compressed, which rags the crud out of a CPU for playback. Basic players can get by because they don't place any other load whatever on the computer subsystems ... while an NLE is by nature itself a heavy demanding app for subsystems. Running the NLE through the CPU/cores/threads/RAM, and then throwing highly compressed 4k long-GOP media at it, is by definition about the worst "stress" you can put on a system.

Cineform proxies or DNxHD proxies are quick & easy on the system, playback's a breeze, and you never have to worry about the proxy/original media for nearly anything but time-ramping or merged files. For that, it's best to transcode the original media to Cineform or DNxHR so the playback is vastly improved, and also use perhaps a Cineform preview format for the sequence so you can render sections for best playback.

Other than that, check on Bill Gehrke's PPBM8 page, he's got one of the Ryzens as a very high-ranked CPU, certainly on a bang-for-buck rating by far the best.

And he's also tested the EVGA 1060/6GB GPU, and found that two of those blow away a single 1080 with max vRAM. I've got the same 1060, and it's been a huge upgrade for my i7/6-core machine. Playback & renders (when involving GPU accelerated effects) are much nicer, "red" sections of sequences all gone to yellow, it's been a big help.

I don't know the comparison of the 1060 vs the 1050ti though.

Neil

http://ppbm8.com/index.html

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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legacyimageryAuthor

Participant

Thanks for the response Neil. I'm aware of the high compression of h.264 and the fact it's very taxing on hardware. I produce long event videos such as weddings, and do not care to wait hours to render proxy files if there is an affordable configuration to avoid it. I think the idea of having to care for such a thing, as well as having two versions of the same 100+ video clips is an inefficiency in it's own respect. To me, having to create a proxy is a bandage to help with the issue of either insufficient hardware, or inefficient software. All philosophy aside, all I'm looking for is a simplified drag-drop-edit workflow, no need for proxy rendering, and I don't care if it causes my computer to have 1/2 of it's lifespan really. That's all I'm looking for an answer to. Thanks again for your input!