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May 30, 2013
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Thoughts on the site re-design from the Kuler team

  • May 30, 2013
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Today we're launching the new site and making Kuler available on the App Store for iOS.  We've worked really hard to make Kuler easier to work with and accessible on all your devices.  And, we have a lot more planned.  So, let us know what you think. 

If you are an active Kuler user, you may notice a few pages and features missing from the new Kuler website.  I’m writing to explain what’s missing, why it’s missing, and what you can expect to see in the coming weeks and months. Here's an overview of what you won't find on the new site:

Create a theme from an image: We know many users really like the “Create from an Image” feature.  Unfortunately, this feature was not ready for the new site launch.  So, rather than launching a buggy or half-baked feature, we decided to take a bit more time to get it right.

We intend to add this feature to the site as soon as it’s ready.  Until then, you can use the free iPhone app to create themes from images.

Color space “slider” controls: We talked to a lot of Kuler users about the slider controls.  Some users like them and others don’t.  The main complaint we heard was that the sliders add unnecessary complexity and take up too much space.

So, we opted to not add the sliders and err on the side of making the creation experience simple.  Though, we decided to keep the “brightness” slider control since some colors spaces don’t have a brightness variable.   We'd love to know what you think.  You can voice your opinion here on the forum.

Change the order of colors: In our research, we found most users did not know you could re-order colors on the old Kuler site.  And, it’s actually quite a bit of work to build this feature.  So, rather than re-building a feature many users don’t know about or use, we wanted to hear from you first.  I created an idea for this feature on the forum.  Please add your vote if you think this feature should be worked on immediately.

Avatar:  Most of the users we talked with about Kuler avatars were indifferent.  In fact, they asked us to focus on other features first.  So, that’s what we’re doing--we're focusing on some of the most requested features first. 

Community spotlight and Pulse:  The Community Spotlight and Pulse were beta features that never really gained any traction.  So, we opted to not continue with these features.

API: We're working to rebuild the Kuler API to offer more robust capababilities.  Until then, we're no longer issuing new API keys.  If you already have a key and are using the API, your service will not be interupted (your key will continue to work).

We’re always looking for feedback and would love to hear what you think about any of these topics—please join the discussion here on the forum.

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    47 replies

    barbara_a7746676
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 6, 2014

    The way Kuler works in Illustrator CC is horrible. Very inefficient. In previous versions of Illustrator I was able to type in a key word and quickly browse and add color schemes to Swatches. Now it take 10 times as long.

    Adobe -- PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD KULER FUNCTIONALITY!

    DrStrik9
    Inspiring
    March 6, 2014

    No Kuler used here, since they sabotaged it. I don't even think about it anymore.

    The great thing about the current Kuler is that (by necessity) I've left it in the dust (where it belongs) and am thinking about colors and color groups in completely different ways.  :+)

    Participant
    August 30, 2013

    The old Kuler tool was much better, please bring it back.

    Thank you.

    Dave ECommunity ManagerAuthor
    Community Manager
    August 8, 2013

    Today we released a few more beta features for you to give feedback on.  We've added the ability to re-order colors in a swatch and slider editing controls for each color space.  Check out the forum post here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1271659

    Thank you for your feedback!

    PECourtejoie
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 9, 2013

    Looks like David__B and many others will be happy! Thanks for the ongoing improvements!

    Participant
    August 2, 2013

    Not having the create theme from an image feature is extremly irritating. That was the main thing I used kuler for!

    They should have waited to push it out if it wasn't complete.

    Dave ECommunity ManagerAuthor
    Community Manager
    August 2, 2013

    Did you see the note about this feature being available as a beta? See this thread: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5548462#5548462

    Participant
    July 18, 2013

    To be honest, I'm disappointed. The product's UI may have been redesigned to be simpler, but the utility has been dumbed-down way too much for me. Losing the "Create from color" and "Create from image" features pretty much made Kuler useless for me. At this point I'm using colorschemedesigner.com because at least it has cool export functions.

    Your Kuler iPhone app is awesome though.

    Participant
    July 19, 2013

    I knew it.  We have to pay to use the palette from an image feature don't we? 

    http://www.adobe.com/products/kuler.html

    Participant
    July 11, 2013

    Here is a suggestion for how to layout the CMYK/RGB section. http://imgur.com/a/rXb8f
    In the current layout, there does not seem to be a relationship between the Color fields and their numerical designations.

    The theme from an image feature is by far the coolest thing Kuler does/did. Delaying the launch date until key features like that are completed is perferrable to pushing an impared version.
    If I had a choice between driving a used car and driving a new car without tires, I would go with the used one, even if it's a clunker; at least it would get me there.

    I will probably never use the kuler iphone app because I can't use Illustrator or photoshop on the iphone.
    Assuming I have the base image I want to use in my phone (which would be unprecedented) and I use that image in the kuler app to make a palette, what happens then?

    How would I use the file?

    How does it get from phone to computer?

    How much will I have to think?

    How many steps will there be?

    How inconvienient will it be?

    How long will it take?

    I'll give you two things:
    1) it's a sexier layout

    &

    2) the overly simplified interface might be more approachable to new users.

    However, you're dismissing your primary audience - advanced users.

    The largest barrier to participation, especially for new users, is how difficult it has always been to get the downloaded palette into the swatch menu of Illustrator or photoshop.

    It is in no way intuitive and it is often easier for me to copy/paste the HEX code 5 times than to try to open the swatch file inside the application.

    Plz fix the broken stuff, maintain your BEST features, and focus on solidifying your existing fan base instead of trying to find an entirely new one.
    As it is, I have next to no reason to use kuler anymore.
    I just keep coming back, hoping it will be fixed. :/

    Dave ECommunity ManagerAuthor
    Community Manager
    July 22, 2013

    Hi everyone.  Thank you for all the feedback you've posted the last few weeks.  We appreciate thoughtful and helpful feedback. 

    Today we're releasing a few new features that we'd like your input on.  Most of these features are in direct response to comments posted on this thread. Rather than posting all the details here, I've created a new thread to explain what we plan to update. 

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1259895

    Please take a look and post your feedback on that thread.  Thanks! 

    Participant
    July 22, 2013

    YEAH!!!!! Import colors from an uploaded photo is BACK!!!!!!

    But will the InDesign palette be added back for the next update?

    Participant
    July 10, 2013

    Just wanted to extend a great big super thank you for no "Create a theme from an image"

    I am on a deadline today (as usual) and trying to figure out the new extra-ultra-mega-sleek navigation is annoying enough (paired with the SLOW load times), but to come on the forum to find you just didn't have your new concept finalized, but went live anyway?!? really?

    the solution: I can download the app, send the customer's logo to my phone, to create a theme, to then come back to the site to download the theme. Pretty weak.

    QUESTION: What is a good alternative to using Adobe Kuler? Nevermind, I'll ask Google.

    Participant
    July 10, 2013

    I dont understand why we can't have a link to the old kuler which is a professionla tool

    (and let the others use this toy )

    Participant
    July 9, 2013

    One more issue regarding the development process (the market research and analyzing results from testing part): As far as I'm convinced, kuler is/was an app for designers. What's the point of making a color palette from an image on a screen that's not normally being precisely calibrated - it is possible to calibrate a smartphone screen, but who knows that and how often one actually does that (a wild assumption, but the number is probably smaller then that of users unaware of the reorder feature in the old kuler)? On the other hand, desktop users - professional designers - calibrate their screens on a regular basis and the feature is gone in the new website... I'm sure the new kuler's been tested on mobile devices by designers. Were they calibrated? When, how often?

    Participant
    July 10, 2013

    Yerbajunkie, I'm pretty sure this isn't about designers anymore. I could be wrong. But designers are craftsmen. And there has always been a lower ROI (return on investment) when catering to craftsmen as opposed to catering to the public at large. When furniture ceased to be created by individual craftspersons and assembly line furniture came into vogue it was a boon to manufacturers. Yes, I am talking the industrial revolution. At last, the common man could afford everyday furniture. Maybe not as nice as hand crafted, but everyone had a shot.

    I see this new app the same way. Kuler cannot remain the bastion of designers when the fever to create color palettes has caught on. And it's so much fun to do it. Not just for designers. But for anyone with a phone. Color is a universal language. And Sally wants to tell her bff what colors would be mad for her wedding. Kuler can do that. Bringing the wider audience into the experience will keep Adobe front and center. Besides, a lot of people probably will find uses for color palettes. If only to play with in digital art. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a good thing.

    But it makes it darn inconvenient for the color artists and designers who used the old interface. It was a glorious interface. Now it is a one-size-fits-all interface that is inadequate for the way designers like you and I want to work. I am sad. I am very sorry to see it go this way. But there is always colrd.com and colourlovers.com. There is the ability to refine colors more with those aps.

    I don't think our old interface will come back again. So, we find alternatives. Or we adapt. It's as simple as that.

    Participant
    July 10, 2013

    Seriously?  This is analogous to the industrial age and that is the reason they cannot restore the old software to a different subdomain and add a link to "Kuler Classic" or "Kuler for Designers?"

    No issues with a phone app for the masses, but that doesn't mean you cripple a highly used tool.  Instead you offer the new Kuler Essentials to Sally and everyone is happy.

    Participant
    July 8, 2013

    Wow, the old kuler was so much more sophisticated compared to this new one which looks like it was built for  kids who want to play around on their smartphones but for a professional designer like me, who works mainly on a larger calibrated computer screen the old version seemed much more sophisticated.     All of the features on the "My Themes Page" seem to be gone except for the search field and custom color swatches which are ginormous and take up the entire page.  The old account page had more features.   This one seems very impersonal.   I loved the image upload feature so I hope you get that back soon. The reorder feature was excellent as well.    It seems to me that if you were not ready to launch this new Kuler, you might have left the old, more complete one up until you were ready.  Anyway, Thanks for creating Kuler in the first place.   I'm still happy that it exists so I will patiently await the new improvements.  Laura