Can't find helvetica neue font in typekit

Adobe is a big company. Despite that they have no power to force type foundries, such as Monotype, to include their best selling fonts on the Adobe Fonts service for whatever terms Adobe offers.

If anything, Adobe's large size makes them more of a target.

Look what happened with the Pantone mess. Pantone decided they wanted to force Adobe customers to use their "Connect" plugin, which costs something like $180 per year. That's a lot of money just to essentially have up to date Pantone digital swatch book ACB files. That price does not include the physical swatch books. A Pantone+ Color Formula Guide of coated and uncoated swatches costs around $200. Those printed swatch books are supposed to be replaced on an annual basis. Pantone wants you to buy those physical swatches and then pay another almost couple hundred for some ACB files to go with the swatch books. Meanwhile, competing applications such as CorelDRAW and Affinity Designer have the "V5" Pantone swatch books still included in their applications for no extra charge. I think Pantone singled out Adobe due to its large size. It doesn't look like Pantone is making versions of its Connect plugin to work with CorelDRAW, Affinity Designer or any other rival graphics applications.

If anything, Adobe should have been charging Pantone a fee to include its swatch books in Adobe's applications. Those swatch books are, in a way, a form of advertising. There are other swatch book companies such as Toyo and Trumatch. And swatch books from those companies are still included in Adobe software.

Dolby is another example. They wanted a certain amount of money per subscriber for Adobe to continue including Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus encoding within Premiere Pro and Audition. Adobe removed the Dolby encoding capabilities in response. Maybe that was Dolby's idea all along. The encoding software Dolby sells is not cheap.

Back to Monotype and Helvetica, there is another factor likely preventing Helvetica from showing up in the Adobe Fonts service: Monotype has its own font subscription service. They've really been pushing it hard lately. I've received lots of email from the MyFonts website about a $5000 sweepstakes; to enter you have to sign up for a Monotype fonts subscription. It's $199 per year for access to around 40,000 fonts (including Helvetica). Currently Monotype has 41 type families hosted on Adobe Fonts. It would not surprise me if Monotype decided to remove all of them in order to get more people to subscribe to their fonts service. Other companies have removed their fonts from Adobe Fonts. Font Bureau is the biggest example. Foundries like Font Bureau have to work with individual type designers. Some of those type designers restored typefaces they designed back on Adobe Fonts after Font Bureau had them removed.

I agree Helvetica is a classic. If a certain typeface is important enough to someone's work flow they often just have to "pony up" and buy a copy. I did that with the two Helvetica Now releases in 2019 and 2021. I'm expecting a second Helvetica Now Variable release sometime in the future since the 2021 variable release has a width axis that only goes from normal to compressed. Monotype will probably ding Helvetica fans again with a "Helvetica Now 2" that has a variable axis going from normal to wide.

Previous message said it perfectly. Helvetica is a classic typeface and is a huge problem if it's not provided by Adobe. I have a client who uses it for everything and doesn't want to change. Come on Adobe, sort this one out and provide designers with such a staple as Helvetica.

Once you land on the Wayback page for an old URL, just click the date of the last save and it'll pull up a copy of that page. It's not an obvious process.

One drawback for these purposes: none of the old fonts work for Wayback. So you get no preview for the fonts listed - you have to search for them by name on the current Typekit page. But it's a start.

Thanks, Sarika.