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March 30, 2023
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Fonts for Indigenous language that uses orthagraphic fonts that has diacritics

  • March 30, 2023
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I am not able to copy a phonetically spelled word that uses diacritics, that looks fine on a browser, system previews, and have it show up correctly on Adobe products. 

 

I am not sure why Browsers and Microsoft products show the orthographic characters correctly, however in adobe products the diacritics, (comma above letters) do not show up.

Here is a name of a new school: wək̓ʷan̓əs tə syaqʷəm . The diacritics above k and n do not show up. However they do show up when applying small caps style to the text.

 

Also when I choose a font that previews the word correctly in the illustrator font panel, it doesn't look the same when put on the artboard.  It's almost like the top of the font gets chopped off.  I tried to change language sets and have spent a lot of time finding a solution. 

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    Imaginerie
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    ImaginerieCommunity Expert
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    March 31, 2023

    Disclaimer as I am not an expert! But I do find that in case of little known writing systems, transliteration symbols or more obscure diacritics, I would always veer towards Noto.
    Noto is a typeface (or more so a vast series of typefaces) that aim to map all writing systems (or most of them!)
    You can find it on Adobe fonts, but I m not sure it contains all the sets, best bet is maybe download it (or them) directly from Google.

     

    I found those articles in case it helps:

    https://www.vulgarlang.com/ipafonts/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/nhvvh3/google_fonts_which_display_ipa/

     

    the Noto page on Google:
    https://fonts.google.com/noto/fonts

     

    Hope it helps somehow!

    kglad
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    kgladCommunity Expert
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    March 31, 2023

    in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

     

    p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

     

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    March 30, 2023

    Each writing system which has a range in Unicode has a set of rules for putting characters together, called "shaping". It needs doing separately for each Unicode range/writing system. Microsoft and Apple are almost certainly ahead of everyone else in this. Sadly (or happily), simple apps with no typographic power just use the Microsoft or Apple shaping. Adobe need to add their own shaping support. The other thing to beware of is that Windows and Mac check the current font to see if it contains the Unicode range, and if not, it picks a suitable random font to substitute. This is clearly the enemy of typography, so Adobe products do not substitute; you have to be in charge of the fonts throughout.

    What Unicode range(s) are you testing with specifically, and which fonts?

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      defaultibmhwr4co8l6Author
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      March 31, 2023

      Thank you for your response. We will be happy to use any font that works with the International Phonetic Alphabet. on Adobe products. We are not picky about fonts at this point. Generally we use Source sans 3, and before Source sans pro.  I have noticed that Source Sans 3 can display most symbols except for Diacritics.

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