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Estimated File Size Issue

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October 30, 2017
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Hi, with the new 2018 upgrade, I came upon to the issue of EFS not estimating the file size properly.

Speaking of a simple 30 second long H.264 mp4 format, rendered at 3mbit/s (1080p) - it normally wouldn't be bigger than 10MB. Via Media Encoder estimated file size shows up accurate but output after rendering is usually 5-10 times bigger than that with the same bitrate. So that 30 second video now renders at 30-40MB. Currently I have to use a 3rd party compression tool like handbrake after each render. This is a new issue and was not happening in CC 2017. Anyone had this issue with their renders? This is making processes longer and ineffective at the moment.

Thanks in advance for any reply!

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Correct answer sylvaink9

I had the same issue just now.

I fixed it by changing the metadata settings to "none".

Hope this helps!

Sylvain

Pamplemuss

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>>I fixed it by changing the metadata settings to "none".

Didn't change a thing. AE 2018, AME 2018. Estimated size -- 1mb. Result -- 14mb.

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Sven S

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AME 2018 didn't have his "none" options. Please check with the latest official or beta build.

Pamplemuss

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Are you sure? In my AME I have it, or it's not this option?

goguvarra

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Just wanted to chime in and also confirm that I've encountered this issue sporadically in the last couple of years and found the solution to it today by accident. Found this post after finding the solution wanting to post on the topic 🙂

I've also written a Bug report here explaining something closely related to this that happens to me.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/adobe-media-encoder-bugs/media-encoder-estimated-file-size-and-metadata-bug/idi-p/14185487#M1218

More people should be aware of this as it was driving a friend of mine crazy today. He needed to achieve a really small filesize with a video and he lost a big chunk of time trying to find the solution because it is such a strange problem.

Also disabling Metadata writing make export a little bit faster as Encoder always takes about 5 seconds at the end of each file to write all the data to the file. Makes it feel a little bit more responsive.

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pikok85

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It's 2023 and here we go again. Have the same issue. Trying the metadata hack. What's more curious is that the problem comes and goes and is probably version specific. I'm terrified to update at this point. This is ridiculous.

JONES Terence

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Agreed. This is Pro level software that gets updated far too regularly IMO. You have to wonder whether those who sign off on updayes actually do any real world testing. Sometimes AE won't even export via AME, and now this one again. I have been stuck using versions 23.4 for weeks because anything above that was causing problems. Now suddenly file sizes that should be less than 3Mo exporting at over 60Mo ?! So I update to 24.0 (keeping the old versions just in case) and it's the still same…

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pikok85

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What is worth, the "metadata hack" works when experiencing the issue, although Adobe's frivolousness in this and many other matters is mind boggling. They're already putting new tech. It's been bugs on bugs for years now. I guess it's a creator's life we have to cope with untill an alternative presents itself.

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jacopof20611335

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I managed to do it by lowering also the level inside "encoding settings"

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sb_ginfonic

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The same issue. 3 min HD video with lowest H.264 settings (VBR 0.19) and estimated 5 mB encoded to actual 85 mB 16 times larger.

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anitaw32432926

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Similar to Egemen's issue - cannot seem to figure out why the estimated file size is very inaccurate.

I'm trying to reduce the size of the video and instead, it's being uploaded to an even larger size. I use to be able to perform this with zero issues in PP2017, but since the update to 2018, I can't seem to figure this out.

The original video is 90 mb - I uploaded, reduce bitrate, set metadata to none and reduce FPS as well. The estimated file size is 14 mb and once exported, it's now 124 mb. I have no idea what I'm selecting to cause this big jump from EFS to the actual video.

Any suggestions?

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AndyCopia

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Having the same problem with 2018 12.1.1 Build 12

Trying to create a low res preview of about an hours footage. it estimates the file size to be around 300 mb then creates a file 1.5gb

I've done this both directly from a PP Sequence and re encoding a mp4

I've tried setting metadata to none but no result

Thanks

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sylvaink9Correct answer

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