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Suzanne5D09
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October 22, 2020
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Sidecar file timecode using in & out trim not resetting to 00:00:000

  • October 22, 2020
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When I bring a video into Media Encoder (either through Premiere or drag and drop the file) and convert video as well as export a Sidecar caption file I am having a problem with the sidecar timecode.

If I have trimmed off the beginning of the video (or used in and out on Premiere), the captioning may start with the right words, but the timecode on the sidecar file for those right words does not reset to 00:00:00. 

I've tried using set time code functon, but that does not change anything on the Sidecar caption file. 

Is this a bug, or is does the set time code function not apply to sidecar files?

Are other people having this issue?

Is there a solution or work around?

 

 

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Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity Expert
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October 30, 2020

I hope someone else drops in to answer that! I could not tell. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong....

 

Stan

Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity Expert
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October 28, 2020

Sorry for the delay in responding. I needed to run some tests to see if I could understand what is happening: I can't understand it, in part because I can't really get any difference in the media file itself using the "Set Start Timecode."

 

But I believe that caption streams do not support this function anyway.

 

a) There is a UserVoice request regarding this:

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/35979748-bug-in-media-export-set-start-timecode-option

 

b) I don't see how it would work as captions are currently created. Not that it matters, but what you are seeing is probably not the "caption file" times, but the caption SEQUENCE times, which, in any event, are not being adjusted by the Set Start Timecode. If you have not changed the caption times from an imported caption file, then the sequence and file times are the same.   

 

Possible Workaround.

Use a third party program such as SubtitleEdit. Bring the exported srt in, and adjust the timecodes to zero there.

 

Stan

 

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Suzanne5D09Author
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October 30, 2020

Thanks Stan.  I was afraid that was the case. If it is possible in future updates, that would be a great addition. Meanwhile, I can use the third party system.  I appreciate the help. I couldn't see any adjustment when using the Set Start Timecode either. What is the purpose of that thing?    

Suzanne 

 

Stan Jones
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Stan JonesCommunity Expert
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October 23, 2020

That's just not the way the caption timecode works. Are you trimming the video in PR?

 

Stan 

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    Suzanne5D09Author
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    October 26, 2020

    Hi.  I have tried trimming and exporting from Premiere as well as Media Encoder.

    The goal is to take a finished broadcast version (with bars/tone/slate at the beginning for broadcast) and export it from in/out points with sidecar file. I need the sidecar file timing to start at  00:00:00 like the video so when it uploaded online, it matches. 

    That being said, if the "Set Start Timecode" feature in the export does not apply to the sidecar caption, what is the purpose?

     

    Attached is a sample of my export screen and a sample of how the the captions still look even after I've used "Set Start

     

    Timecode."

     

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