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Erembodegem
Inspiring
April 1, 2019
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Auto Lip Sync and moving head

  • April 1, 2019
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The new Auto Lip sync seems a nice feature to have.

I have seen several tutorials on this and all work fine except when the moth is moving around together with the mouth.

The symbol of the mouth stops moving when using Auto Lip Sync. Is there a workaround for this?All the tutorials I have seen ara all with heads that don't move.

So my Mouth symbol (in a seperate layer) moves together with my head, but after using auto lip sync, the mouth symbol doesn't move anymore

    Correct answer n. tilcheff

    According to good rigging practice mouth should be nested inside the head symbol, not tweened around to match the movement of the head.

    Lip sync happens inside the head symbol; that is why the head appears static. It is animated on the outside.

    Only reason to tween the mouth would be nods or smooth, slow head turns.

    This in-depth article on character rigging I wrote recently may be of interest.

    Good luck!

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    anthony_5305
    Participant
    January 4, 2025

    HI,

    I made head turns of left profile and right profile etc. in those profiles is a mouth file with the AA Ee vowels in each at different angles that match the right or left head profile. When I auto sync the voice it only shows the mouth from the front view and not the right and left titled head views even through I made sepearate mouth vowels for those? How do I get the mouth to tilt with the left and right head profile tilts?

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    erics2020
    Known Participant
    March 26, 2021

    If I'm understanding your issue correctly, putting the audio inside the head symbol (for sync) and on the main timeline (for play) will fix it. Both. Keep the mouth inside the head symbol and match up the sync starting points in the main and head timeline.

     

    I hope this helps.

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      erics2020
      Known Participant
      February 4, 2021

      Hi,

      I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to build on this topic or start a new thread. But I'm having this issue also. But when I nest the mouth symbol inside the head symbol, the mouth doesn't talk. It only seems to talk for me when the mouth is outside the head symbol. I've tried moving the audio inside and outside the head symbol, but neither causes the mouth to move. I'm having the same issue with moving the eyeball when nested inside the head, so I've been putting both the eyes and mouth outside the head symbol so that I can move the eyes. But this causes a bunch of issues for me.

       

      I've read the article you posted and watched the videos. It's incredibly useful, but I'm still running into this issue. Is it maybe a software issue? With me, it's safe to assume it's user error. Is there any way for me to figure out what I'm doing wrong?

       

      n. tilcheff
      n. tilcheff
      Legend
      February 4, 2021

      Hi mate,

       

      You have to set the head symbol to Play Once, so that it plays in sync with the character timeline. Then all animation that is inside will be visible on the outside.

       

      Nick - Character Designer and Animator, Flash user since 1998 | Member of the Flanimate Power Tools team - extensions for character animation
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        erics2020
        Known Participant
        February 4, 2021

        I sincerely hope that you are paid well for this. You are always so friendly, incredibly helpful, and surprisingly quick with your support. You have single-handedly kept me from switching programs out of frustration on three separate occasions. As always, THANK YOU!

          n. tilcheff
          n. tilcheffCorrect answer
          Legend
          April 1, 2019

          According to good rigging practice mouth should be nested inside the head symbol, not tweened around to match the movement of the head.

          Lip sync happens inside the head symbol; that is why the head appears static. It is animated on the outside.

          Only reason to tween the mouth would be nods or smooth, slow head turns.

          This in-depth article on character rigging I wrote recently may be of interest.

          Good luck!

          Nick - Character Designer and Animator, Flash user since 1998 | Member of the Flanimate Power Tools team - extensions for character animation
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          ErembodegemAuthor
          Inspiring
          April 1, 2019

          That makes sense. I'll redo the rigging. Thanks for the article. Look like a good read, i will look into it.

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