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Camera Raw 14.0 on MacOS Big Sur slow

Forum|Forum|4 years ago
October 29, 2021
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Everytime Adobe does a major update, it takes about 2 months for them to unravel these very familiar problems. First, let me get this out of the way, I work on:

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2020)

3.8 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i7

80 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 GB (supports full acceleration)

Camera raw, Canon R5

CR preferences: ProPhoto RGB, 8 bit, 300 dpi, cache 50 GB

AdobeCC 2022

80% of my business is product photography. I just got the update to Photoshop CC 2022 yesterday 10/28. Today I am trying to edit photos I took for Rolex, and using the adjustment brush (as it's own mask or an add-on to "select subject" mask1 ) is like watching paint dry. A fast adjustment brush is critical for true sRGB white backgrounds in my product photog workflow considering I average 200 deliverables per week. Another problem is that cropping went back to a slow glide motion where the photo is moved around, rather than the much quicker crop lines being what moves. These 2 issues alone easily double the amount of time I have to spend editing each week.

*The adjustment brush works just fine in Lightroom, but I have my reasons for using Camera Raw instead.

What's the deal Adobe?

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Doozie2

Participating Frequently

Fixed – I upgraded to Raw 14.3 last week.

Dramatically better performance for me on both my 2018 and M1 Macs for the adjustment brush too.

I really pushed it too – I turned on maxium feather and auto mask and scrubed the brush fast. The brush was nearly immediate – very tiny lag. I could hardly believe it.

samfoto

Participant

The Camera Raw 14.2 new masking brush is painfully slow in 2022!!! My friend is dual booting Windows 11 Pro and MacOS Big Sur 11.6.5 with i9-9900k and a Radeon VII and on the same machine it runs fine in Windows, runs like extrement in MacOS Big Sur! My friend said Camera Raw 13.2 runs just fine. C'mon Adobe!

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the castle explorers

Inspiring

I was able to cure ACR Healing Brush laging on my own system.

I had originally noticed the lag in use of the healing brush with my update to ACR 14.2. Previously it had worked fine on my base spec 2015 27" iMac. Reverting to ACR 13.1 cured the problem but gave up some advantages of the later ACR version. Turning off the Graphics Processer mostly eliminated this issue but caused some issues of it's own.

When I upgraded to a base spec M1 Studio I had hoped the issue would be resolved, but performence in this area was unchanged.

After much internet searching I found a very short mention on one of the Adobe forums from a poster who had solved his issue by changing to an Apple brand mouse. I wish I could credit the person originating the idea but have been unable to relocate the original post.

As I had been using a Razer 12 button gaming mouse for a number of years, and without trouble on earlier ACR version, it had never occured to me to look for a problem involving the mouse. I had an old wired Apple mouse in a drawer and found that the problem disappeared when using this cheap mouse.

As Razer had long ago abandoned suppport for Mac computer I had been using the excellent Stearmouse to program the buttons. I opened Steermouse and expeimented with the sliders which controled the mouse speed, accelleration and precision. As best I could tell it did nothing other than make the mouse run like crap.

I replaced the Razer 12 button with a Corasir 12 button and the same problem occured. However, the Corsair iCUE software used to probgram the Corsair mouse was much easier to use and I used the slider adjusting the precision to it's lowest setting. The problem no longer occurs. I also notice no difference in performance as a result of the reduction in mouse precision, but I'm not a gamer so perhaps something might be lost in that application.

While I have no idea if this would be of any benifite in your specific situation, if you are using a high quality/high precision mouse or some sort of gaming mouse I would suggest replacing it with some sort of crappy cheap mouse as an experiment to see if it offers any assistance.

mavenlore

Participant

I don't know about everyone else, but I updated to photoshop 23.1.1 and the problem seems to be resolved.

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Doozie2

Participating Frequently

Thanks for the follow up, but unfortanetly…

The Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw Brush is still terribly slow when painting masks. It is still the same issue, the brush buffers and lag for upto 15 seconds. The same mask brush works fine in Lightroom and there are no standard brush performance issues in normal Photoshop contexts. Time to ask IT for a M1 Mac I assume.

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mauerzahn

Participating Frequently

The M1 won't help though - I have the same problems on an M1 mac mini.

mavenlore

Participant

Hello everyone, I had the same problem until 2 minutes ago. Turns out you need to turn off graphics processor off in the CAMERA RAW references, not the standard photoshop preferences - Photoshop / Preferences / Camera Raw (at bottom) / Performance / Use Graphic Processor (Off)

Back to real time adjustment and healing brush! Hope this helps everyone!

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adamh46430981

Participant

I tried this just now as well, and it worked for me. Full spec 2019 macbook pro. Thanks Mavenlore.

mavenlore

Participant

Wow, we have the same macbook! All steroided out full specs as well! Yeah...our machines very much should be able to handle a small brush with the greatest of ease.

Follow up, I fugred a more time efficent way to do the GPU switch, tuens out you can just switch it on and off WITHIN camera raw, look for the preferences gear icon in the top right corner. Makes the workflow better than closing the RAW image, messing with preferences and then re-opening.

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AndrejVasilenko

Participating Frequently

Same here, I am on iMac 2017, 4.2ghz i7, 32gb ram and Amd pro 580 8gb graphics, which is more than enough for photoshop. When using masking tool, it is lagging while I draw the mask. Reset the setting but its still there. Never happened before the update.

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nickm7301167

Participant

Having the exact same problem. Lightroom is fine, Camera Raw brushes in Photoshop is unusable.

TheDigitalDog

Inspiring

Might try resetting you ACR preferences, can't hurt.

Reset ACR preferences:
Hold down the Command key and select Photoshop > Preferences > Camera Raw (macOS) or hold down the Ctrl key and select Edit > Preferences > Camera Raw (Windows).

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

diegoa66445523Author

Inspiring

Thanks for the suggestion, but after updating the MacOS to Monterrey last week, I thought I'd try it again. Making sure all Adobe settings were set at default, I tried to edit one photo in Camera Raw, and it's still a mess. By mess I mean, I applied one stroke of the adjustment brush, and I timed a full 15 seconds before the action applied and appeared on screen. Just scrolling through the filmstrip, if I happen to have several photos open, takes a long time for the photos to actually move. I don't know what happened to camera raw but right now it's worthless for me.

David Franzen at Work

Adobe Employee

Thank you for providing a specific example how long an operation takes. A 15-second lag to add the first brush with default settings sounds very out of the ordinary.

I'm curious about another detail you provided. You listed "80" GB RAM. Did you mean 8 GB? I did not realize 80 GB was a configuration that is available on the iMac.

Just for testing, please try a couple experiments to see if they affect the performance of the operation you described: adding the first brush stroke to a photo with default settings. First, please try the test again after resizing the Camera Raw dialog to the smallest possible size. Second, please quit Photoshop and open a photo in Camera Raw directly in Bridge by selecting the thumbnail for a photo in Bridge and using the cmd+R keyboard shortcut. Because you reported that you saw the slow performance in Photoshop, but not in Lightroom, I'm curious to know if the issue also affects a Bridge-hosted Camera Raw dialog.

Thanks,

David

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