+ Camera Raw Feature Requests +

>All was going well until someone upgraded their camera to 5d Mk11 .The camera Rawe plug in require to open these files cannot be used in CS3...sure there is a work around ..but come on Adobe A$380 to upgrade 6 machine just for the Camera Raw plug in.Can I say either come up with descent upgrades that are worth while or offer the Camera Raw plug in to CS3 users and future support to the software that made Adobe.

Carl, you just spent a small fortune on the latest camera and expect Adobe to upgrade your Adobe software for nothing as a result!? The 5DII comes with software to process the images, use that.
And $380 for 6 upgrades is not exactly a lot of money and very easily affordable by professional retouchers.
Besides, why not complain to Canon? They are the ones who changed their file formats, not Adobe, yet you expect Adobe to pick up the cost of their unecessary changes. Canon could simply use the open DNG RAW file format.

>It would be a good feature to support CS3 for a year with new Camera Raw..Until Adobe come up with a decent upgrade.

ACR5 is a decent upgrade over 4. No it's a brilliant upgrade, for those who appreciate the RAW workflow, this may be all the justification they need for upgrading PS. Same goes for the improvements to Bridge. Why should you get this hard work for nothing? You would be annoyed if you clients asked for some free retouching for a year after they first used you.
I think PS4 is also waaay better than CS3 particularly on the Mac.

Jeff Schewe has explained at length and on many occasions why you don't get a free version of the next ACR. To summarize, updating old versions of ACR will take time away from developing new versions and you don't have to buy a new camera.
And as you can use DNG convertor for free with one's new camera, you're not exactly locked out. Adobe don't have to do that, which would otherwise force you to upgrade, so why not be gracious and thank Adobe for that.

>I have just been doing some research.
Canon release the 5dMk2 Sept17th 2008
Adobe sets date for launch of CS4 23rdsept 2008.
So the Canon 5 d mk 2 was out before CS4 is this correct.

No. The Canon only came out in November/December.
CS4 was finished before the 5dII was even announced.
Not that this affects CS3 at all, so the point is...??

And if you and your 'experts' cannot see how CS4 is a big improvement, you are not the experts you think you are. Particularly if that's how good you are at research.

RCThanks for the apology and understanding...
Paparazzi How did you work that one out.....
Anyway guys..I think I expected a little more from this shite..It all seems a bit one eyed and a few control freaks...Who was the famous guy who said..I am not on this earth to meet you requirements and you are not here for mine...this site is a great way to debate and exchange ideas...Too many Rock stars loser types on here for me wont be back, no fresh ideas no challenge to the machine, if you know what I mean... ..Thanks to all who tried to help do well all .

all I asked ids that CS3 be given support just for Camera Raw ..you can have your rotate canvas...I gave the CS4 to all my guys saying, "you find something decent and Ill upgrade".
Nobody wanted the upgrade..there is nothing for us...as I said I will upgrade but I do intend to go the way of Capture One..its my choice I hope thats OK with everyone.

Dont reply I wont be back.

PS I will post this on a few threads..

Carl,

Double posting is discouraged. I replied to your identical post in another thread:

Ramón G Castañeda, "CS3 convert to DNG with Canon 5D Mk2" #28, 10 Jan 2009 2:04 am

I got one of the first mk2 at the end of November. By that point I already had my cs4 upgrade and was only waiting on the Lightroom one which I use for shooting and converting before importing into PS (it came a day or two later).
I'm not a heavy PS user, only 4 or 5 hours a day everyday for 7 days a week. I do take a couple of days off here and there.
Sorry Carl that you don't feel CS4 is a worth while update. It seems to me at least that it is very worth while to you since you are posting here about it and the relationship with Canon.

The only profession I can that wouldn't see the advantages to a CS4 workflow might be a paparazzi agency.

Carl do you want to confess something?
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I have just been doing some research.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkii.asp

Canon release the 5dMk2 Sept17th 2008

http://news.cnet.com/adobe-sets-date-for-cs4-launch/
Adobe sets date for launch of CS4 23rdsept 2008.

So the Canon 5 d mk 2 was out before CS4 is this correct.

Carl

John.
I dont want to get into stupid puerile blogs.I made my opinion on this site..I will probably update all my copies.But the upgrade is poor and I think Adobe need to do much better with their upgrades.I could give them a few ideas, based on some old paint box techniques.
Remember the program called montage, before Photoshop had layers.Now that was a good upgrade....rotating canvas....wow.
John I have just interviewed many people for a position I had ...so called experts.....lets leave it at that.Photoshop is not Rocket science, but there are so many very average retouchers out there, people who know photoshop inside out but cant see a cast or dont have an eye for detail.People who have been doing it for 15 even 20 years.
John I will let you know when my shoe lace is undone.

Ta

Also for your information, Carl, every major upgrade of the ACR plug-in is based on the code for the current version of the application. Supporting older versions of the application would require writing separate plug-ins. It's just not realistic to expect Adobe to do that.

Carl,

Professional and advanced retouchers (which I am not) in Photoshop forum the are raving abut the ability to rotate the canvas in CS4.

Any professional retoucher should recover the $198 upgrade cost in no time, conceivably in a singly job.

Carl,

Yeah that's it. hahaha!

If you're going to belittle us "basic users" maybe you should post a link and show us your professional retouching.

John MacLean
Basic Photoshop user since 1993