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September 22, 2005
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In future it would helpful if you could use this thread as a means to add

"Features" that you would like to see in future releases of Adobe Camera Raw.

Please do NOT create additional new Topics and try not to duplicate requests by other users. Also, be thorough in your description of the feature and why you think Adobe should consider it.

Oh, and if you find it necessary to comment on someone's feature request/suggestion, try not to get into a shouting match. The penalty for doing so is...

b If you're asking that a particular camera is supported in a future release or just taking the opportunity to carp that yours isn't then please do so in another thread!

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_Steven_Noreyko_

Participating Frequently

Feature Requests:

1) Key commands for "Cancel" , "Open" and "Save" in the Camera Raw window.

Currently you have to physically click on the Open or Cancel buttons (at least in the MacOS version). It would be MUCH more efficient to be able to use Command-. to cancel the ACR dialog, or Command-O (or shift/option command-o) to Open, etc..

2) Configuurability of the ACR window - i.e. the ability to MOVE the filmstrip (when viewing multiple files) to the right side of the window - which is closer to the ACR controls.

3) Key Commands to switch between the Adjust/Detail/Lens/Curves tabs in the controls

4) Be able to assign a Key Command to a Camera Raw settings file (from the settings pull down)

Thanks!

-steve

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_Jeff_Schewe_

Participating Frequently

Since the interal color space of Camera Raw is ProPhoto RGB chromatisities, you wouldn't get anything by converting into Lab from Camera Raw that you can't get from going from PPRGB to Lab in Photoshop.

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_ecwyatt_

Participant

Could it be possible to have a convert to Color mode I know right know you can convert to:
Adobe RGB
Color Match RGB
ProPhoto RGB
sRGB IEC61966-1

But what about LAB I actually find I am using this color mode more and more. It would be nice to edit it in Camera Raw before sending to Photoshop.

Just my 2 cents

S

SimonTindemans

Participating Frequently

I think I need to clarify myself. I know that the full operation (inversion, mask, transfer curves) can be described by
out_ch = M_ch * (1/in_ch)^G_ch
for each channel 'ch' (RGB). Afterwards, the result needs to be transformed to an output space. (Note: this does not address the top/bottom of the curve)

The fundamental problem in Photoshop is that a division cannot be performed in any easy way. However, the multiplication and power law (with a positive exponent) are fairly easy to do. It's for this reason that I only mentioned that "an operation of the form 1/n" cannot be performed.

> Also, the author of that site has a bit of confusion over gamma encoding and how some of the adjustments work in Photoshop (I wish he's just ASK).

Care to explain? Although maybe that should go into a separate thread...

Chris Cox

Legend

Also, the author of that site has a bit of confusion over gamma encoding and how some of the adjustments work in Photoshop (I wish he's just ASK).

Chris Cox

Legend

The paper on the site you quoted has a good approximation of the math involved - but you left out the "gamma" factors (which approximate the transfer curves).

Chris Cox

Legend

No, inverting photographic negatives is not 1/n.

Inverting/printing a negative involves several steps: removing the base color, removing the transfer curves for the negative film, inverting, then adapting to the final color space.
(amazing how they get all of that into the chemistry for paper, eh)

S

SimonTindemans

Participating Frequently

Let me slip in one more comment about negative inversion. The best tool I have encountered for this purpose is the Photoshop plug-in NegPos, written by David Dunthorn. You can find the plug-in, and a description of the underlying math, at http://www.c-f-systems.com/Plug-ins.html

Basically, the need for the plug-in comes from the fact that for negative inversion you need to perform an operation of the form "out = 1/in", whereas the Photoshop 'invert' command does "out = 1 - in". (in & out are normalized to 0..1). Quite a difference indeed, also in the results.

Regards,
Simon

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_Barry_Clive_Pearson_

Participating Frequently

nunatak, thanks for that. I've decided to scan them in anyway, because I have a good scanner, and would need to buy or make a slide copier otherwise. I think I can tolerate the time it takes.

(I used to have a good slide copier with double bellows on girder-like base and macro lens - but it went when my house was broken into!)

Ramón G Castañeda

Inspiring

>If you think none of your lenses exhibit vignetting,

That is not the case. I have one that does (out of some three dozen lenses). [It happens to be a zoom lens and I don't like zoom lenses anyway.]

>Most reviews in Popular Photography include a sentence such as:

Why should I care about PP? Give me a break.

As for your suggested "test", I've been making photographs for over half a century now. I know what vignetting is.

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