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June 18, 2020
Question

Impossible to disable scrubby zoom in latest camera raw?

  • June 18, 2020
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It seems like selection zoom has been removed entirely. I mean, seriously? Whose bright idea was this? I HATE scrubby zoom, and don't want to be forced to use it.

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Known Participant
December 2, 2020

Yet again, I had to roll back to Camera Raw 10.5.  The CTRL-Zoom option just draws a dashed box around the selection, it doesn't actually zoom.  The new zoom method makes no sense to me.  Also, generally speaking, the layout of the new Camera RAW was a completely unnecessary change.  Yes, I could probably get used to the new environment, but why should I?  It seems that everytime Adobe pushes out an update, my workflow grinds to a halt while I relearn how to do the tasks that I've been doing for 15+ years.

Inspiring
August 17, 2020

Adding to zoom issue, other really annoying changes for me;

- Zooming out using the cursor used to do zoom out in stages, now it zooms to the whole window.

- Creating a new adjustment brush should reset all the values to zero. 

- Bring back the + and - to either size of each value for quick increases and decreases

- Scrolling the mouse wheel should move the film strip along to the right, currently you have to click and slide the slider

- Can't zoom at all when using adjustment brush or spot removal, can only pan by holding the space bar.  You have to switch back to the edit tab in order to zoom which is crazy.

 

Participating Frequently
August 22, 2020

I'm honestly not sure that whoever is in charge of making changes to Camera RAW has ever actually used the program. Why remove useful features? They've fixed a couple issues on the latest update, but a lot of the old functionality is still gone. Hopefully the old version doesn't stop working.

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
August 22, 2020

"Why remove useful features?"

 

Why are you asking end users, in a user to user support forum a question they cannot answer? 

You want to address or ask Adobe? It's done here:

https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
July 4, 2020

AFAIK, one was never able to disable scrubby sliders/zoom?  

"I wish there had been some kind of hint or tip, because it was never like that before."

https://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2020/06/acrv12-3.html

 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
JP Hess
Inspiring
July 4, 2020

All I can tell you is, apparently not. I'm sticking with the latest Camera Raw because I don't use it that much and I can tolerate it as it is. I know, it's different. But I don't use it that much so it doesn't bother me. But I have seen reports from others that it was necessary for them to drop back to previous versions of Bridge, and that's really all I know. Sorry.

JP Hess
Inspiring
July 3, 2020

You'll have to go to the Creative Cloud Application Manager and locate Bridge. Click on the "..." and choose to uninstall the current version. Then choose to install the "most recent" older version. That should synchronize Bridge and Camera Raw.

Wes Duenkel
Inspiring
July 3, 2020

Noted. So are you saying that ACR 12.2 doesn't work at all with Bridge 10.1?

JP Hess
Inspiring
July 3, 2020

I do not work for Adobe. I have no connections with the company whatsoever. I do know that the complaints of MANY users has been heard about the latest Camera Raw, and Adobe is working on a fix of one sort or another. What that entails, I do not know. In the meantime, the only choices are to endure Camera Raw 12.3 or revert to the previous version. If you choose to revert, here is the link:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x 

Wes Duenkel
Inspiring
July 3, 2020

Thanks for the tip, but now Bridge won't open images in ACR at all. Command+R does nothing, and the menu opiton for "Open in Camera Raw" is grayed out. I can open an image in photoshop, and ACR 12.2 comes up, but for some reason Bridge isn't recognizing that the older version of ACR is installed. Ugh. What a mess. Any ideas?

Wes Duenkel
Inspiring
July 3, 2020

There is another problem. On the previous version of ACR, on a Mac while using the spot removal tool, holding down the Option key and using the scroll wheel would zoom in and out without having to select the zoom tool. This functionality is lost in the ACR 12.3.

Now the scroll wheel just changes the brush size, regardless if the option key is pressed or not.

Please fix this.

chrisfatseas
Participant
July 14, 2020

I have the same feelings about the new ACR. The scroll wheel just changing the brush size is very frustrating. Makes it much harder to zoom in and out of the image as needed. I am also having problems with the zoom method changing to scrubby zoom at random, even with "Use lightroom pan and zoom" selected in the menu. Please fix these issues in the next update!

dfranzen_camera_raw
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
June 18, 2020

I know who's bright idea it was, but I won't name names here. Sorry it inpires your hatred. (Some people do like it, just so you know.)

 

You don't have to use if if you don't like it. On the General Preferences panel turn on "Use Lightroom Style Pan and Zoom." In that mode you will need to hold down a modifier key to use scrubby zoom. 

Participant
June 18, 2020

The problem is, I don't want Lightroom style zoom. I rarely use Lightroom. I want the normal zoom with the selection box. There was seriously no remotely rational reason to remove this feature.

 

Edit: Never mind, I see now. One has to hold down control to enable the selection box. I wish there had been some kind of hint or tip, because it was never like that before. Crisis averted I guess. On a more positive note, I actually like the new UI a lot, I don't know what everyone is complaining about.