Noise Reduction problem

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You want better results; that is a request. 

The product does what it was supposed to do; it didn't crash, it didn't discolor the results, etc. 

 

By @TheDigitalDog

you're wrong. as I wrote, it did "worse than the original" = which means it's ruined. do you understand it? this is a big difference between what you write about simply "want better result". NO, it's not just the better result, for start, at least don't degrade the original.
Yes, not the whole picture, only the areas I selected, but it clearly NOT "what it was supposed to do".

and I didn’t write anywhere that I don’t like the denoise, don’t change the meaning of my words! this is a provocation to a conflict, and is called trolling.
I wrote straight and clearly that my goal is to make NR better. So please do not reply to me again if you are not a developer or team member.

This is not REQUEST. Yes, perhaps this is not a bug in the classical sense, but this is the problem of the algorithm, because the places indicated by me in the photo were processed not only bad, but ruined, because all three places are worse than the original.

By @KenJay189

You want better results; that is a request. 

The product does what it was supposed to do; it didn't crash, it didn't discolor the results, etc. 

The team(s) look at requests/bugs differently. Nothing you're provided indicates a bug. What you offered was a request for better details in some areas; fine. 

If you don't like the results, don't use Denoise. 

Two problems are here.
1. This is not REQUEST. Yes, perhaps this is not a bug in the classical sense, but this is the problem of the algorithm, because the places indicated by me in the photo were processed not only bad, but ruined, because all three places are worse than the original. The text is crumbly and blured, the face in the original does not have artifacts, the shadows on car only increased noise and artifacts as if it were details. This is bad, it needs to be fixed ..
2. Due to the fact that now this is "Request" I do not know how many years I have to store files ... I want to get a review from the developers that the files are at least downloaded by the command to further improve the algorithm. Otherwise, I simply do not know the status of a request and it will just “frozen” forever. its not good.

I hope that they improve the algorithm using my files, not "when", but I want to know that the files were used at least. Therefore, that this not huge but is a problem and NOT "just a request", "This is a report" and the problem should be solved.

Of course you didn't do “tests on JPEGs” as indeed that's not possible.

No bugs here. So this is now flagged as a feature request so the team may examine your raws. 

I perfectly indicated the problems in the screenshots, these are three jpg files that shows exactly what the problems are.
i don't do any "tests with jpg"...it's not possible in anyway, the filter doesn't work with jpg.

in my post i say compleatly deferent phrase and clearly concrere "jpg files with explanation" there is NOT "test with jpg"....

ofcorse AI is getting better, that's why I posted the files so that the developers take them and improve the algorithms.

I downloaded the files. I opened both 2023-02-15 15-34-42.DNG and the enhanced version, I'm not sure what you're trying to tell us is wrong. Both look identical, with the expected exception the Enhanced version has far less noise. 

Both opened in HDR preview, which maybe is your issue? But I don't see anything wrong here until you tell us what to look for. 

As for the test on the JPEG, to be expected with whatever setting you may have to alter. Yes, less noise, and yes, the text is a bit more blurry. Even with AI, there's no free lunch here: GIGO:Garbage In Garbage Out. Denoise provides a bit less garage than the alternatives. 

AI will get better as it gets more training. But there are no bugs here.

Denoise will only work with mosaic raw files directly from a camera. It does not work with demosaiced RGB files like psd/tiff/jpeg or files from photomerge/super resolution.

Denoise is also easily the most GPU-intensive function in the whole PS/ACR/Lr family to date. It relies heavily on new GPU technologies, and if your GPU is more than a few years old it will likely be very slow.