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September 5, 2024
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This post applies to Camera Raw.
Feedback for Lightroom Classic and Lightroom Desktop should be posted here.

Update February 2025:

Adobe has introduced two Adaptive Profiles – Adaptive Color & Adaptive B&W.

Getting started with the Adaptive Profiles:

Access a profile inside the profile favorites menu.
In addition, there is a new section for Adaptive Profiles in the Profiles browser.
Enable the profile and adjust the ‘Amount’ slider as desired.
Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

Check out the Help Page for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this blog post.

Please try the profiles and share feedback in this community forum thread. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting image quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve the future experience.

Best practices for using the Adaptive Profiles:

Try the new profile in the following scenarios:

For food scenes.
In situations where simply moving Tone and Color sliders may not be sufficient, such as for: high-contrast scenes, landscape or cityscape scenes with skies.
For High-Dynamic-Range (HDR) photography, simply select Adaptive Color or Adaptive B&W as a profile and click on the ‘HDR’ button.

Note: Adaptive Profiles generate HDR and Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) data jointly, creating photos that look consistent with one another. In other words, after applying either of these profiles, if you toggle the HDR button on or off, you will see either the adaptive HDR or SDR look, depending on the position of the toggle.

To maximize the value of using Adaptive Profiles, please follow these steps:

Always start from the Adobe Default or Camera Default rendering (with no other edits) and enable the Adaptive Profile first.
Reset any other settings before applying the profile.
Make additional global and local edits after assigning the profile, just as you would begin to edit photos with Adobe Color or any other profile.

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

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bradf93189156

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It would be a nice option to be able to click on a before and after button like there is in Masking and other edit options in Camera Raw.

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bradf93189156

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I am editing my post from 2 minutes ago. I should have specified that it would be a nice option for AI Adaptive Color to have a before and after button to decide whether the generated computer model of a specific image was an acceptable edit or how much of the Adaptive Color edit to allow with the Amount slider.

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renatosilva

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I was working my HDRs much better with the older ACR version. The HDR merge gives me far worse results with this upgrade, and turns out that I can't save the DNGs to JPGs in PS anymore!! What happened there??

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Mikaela_Klaesson1703

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So how do you automaticly apply the profile as "default" if i want to batch images thru a action or a jsx script? Since it no longer can be set in camera raw filter you cant go in "again" and make a preset or record it in a action?

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Kaustubh Gogate

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I tried it with my sony raw image and found to be useful to the basic level or we may say a landing platform for further adjustments. For an experienced photographer like me, if I have shot some landscape with some pre-decided outputs I may want from, still it provides sufficient tonal handling in my perspective. I know, every image will be different, intentions will be different, shooting styles may be different. Yet providing a landing platform like this profile is quite useful. I liked the way it handle tonal values. Pretty good to start with. Still, I don't know much of the tech side of it, attaching here the shot to which I applied the profile. (There are no more adjustments made other than applying profile.)

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ivo_6612

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dakr and moodz portrait get overblown and white, person bezond repair.... i dont get it, it is the worst feature i have ever seen

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jas4bg

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I used the adaptive profile for a few hour tonight on a series of not very well lit ballet photos. I was very pleasantly surprised!. High contrast, weird color temperatures in the photos. This profile opened up a new world where I didn't have to be nearly as extereme to get a basic look that I was happy with. Hurry up and release it for Lightrrom! So many profiles are tailored for outddor shots...none for theater. This is working for me. Thank you.

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stephenb22492886

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I only see the new Camera Raw features if I open Photoshop Beta from Bridge. I do not see the features if I open Photoshop Beta from Lightroom Classic. Does anyone else have this issue?

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drtonyb

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@stephenb22492886

Please see this question and the replies:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-adobe-adaptive-profile-beta/m-p/15044113#M26657

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MOS20000

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Tested it with some images by now (only monochrome profile) and it is a good starting point to a b/w transformation.

It is biased on a more HDR look, but not overpowering the effects.

Problem is the general effect of conformity when everybody will use it - smells a bit like "just another filter ready to use" - but it is a good one as far as I can tell.

Will definetely incorporate it into my upcoming monochrome workflow - but only as a comparison point to the b/w profiles of my cameras - those fulfill specific film simulation needs. When printing there may be better results as I can predict the way it looks on specific papers and can mimic those well known looks better.

Online it will work just fine as it adds a little "wow" to some images without extensive fiddling on editing panes.

If it was up to me to integrate it - I would love to see it in the b/w mixer pane with some added dials for balance of some clever base parameters like "shadows balance" or "highlight texture".

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Lightfreak

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I have been using it for 5 minutes.
With an unfortunately overexposed background or sky and have to say “WOW”!!!
My naked eye didn't recognize anything and mountains (part of the Dolomites) and clouds appeared out of nowhere. Haven't tested much more yet but I love it already!!!

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Ann Varley

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I'm curious about why, if I launch a CR2 file from Lightroom Classic into Photoshop for edit, Photoshop does not automatically open Camera Raw as it has always done. If I use the menu to select the Camera Raw filter, the Adadaptive Profile is not available. Now, If I launch the same CR2 file from Bridge into Photoshop for edit, Photoshop will automatically open Camera Raw and the Adaptive Profile preset is there. I am on Windows 11, Camera Raw version 17.1, LightRoom Classic version 14.1.1. Photoshop 26.1,

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drtonyb

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@Ann Varley

Using Edit in Photoshop from Lightroom Classic opens as a fully rendered (applies the LrC Develop settings) image in Ps, so once opened in Ps, it is no longer a RAW file; there is no RAW data avilable to Ps. Since LrC has already processed the RAW file, ACR is not required. Using the Camera Raw Filter in Ps passes the image to Camera Raw, but it's not a RAW file, so the Adobe Adaptive profile is not available and nor are any of the other profiles that apply only to RAW files.

When you open a RAW file from Bridge, it must first be processed by Camera Raw into an image before it can be handed over to be edited in Ps. As such, Camera Raw will have the Adobe Adaptive profile available since you are directly processing a RAW file. Once in Ps, again it is no longer a RAW file. Using the Camera Raw Filter will once again, not have the Adobe Adaptive profile available.

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Ann Varley

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Awesome explanation! I've only started using Lightroom a couple of months
ago, still trying to figure out all the finer nuances of the beast. I
appreciate your explanation!

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