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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

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May 16, 2024
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The Photography team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item.

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings.

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Ash Mills Photography

Known Participant

Having the AI remove in Camera Raw is great, but I wish it it could be trained to do what it is branded for - "Remove" - rather than "Replace" - So often you try and take people out of the background and all three AI generative options are not the background but a different set of people. Remove should look to produce more minimalist results, without the thing being removed, rather than a different thing. Cheers.

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alan33@aol.com

Participant

Generative remove doesnt seem to work very well or at all removing items from backrounds that are way out of focus. Like the cars in the background of this image. (I know, I should have put up a backdrop when I shot it instead of relying on software)

gary_sc

Community Expert

Tell the customer that it's corgie litter in the background. I'm sure they'll understand.

Meanwhile, it's time for the Rubber Stamp Tool

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Precious_Songbird5C7D

Participant

I keep running into the issue of trying to remove people and instead it just generates a new person.

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Nikontraveler

Participant

Are you trying this in Photoshop or Lightroom Classic? I've had good results (Not Perfect) in Lightroom Classic. I've had fairly good lick removing people, garbage cans, signs, posts, tree branchs etc. I have not tried this in Photoshop.

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Precious_Songbird5C7D

Participant

Both but with similar results. It was working before but the last few days it's been doing this.

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ejcphotography

Participant

For the small amount I tried this today, wow!! I'm utterly impressed! I usually use the "Heal" feature and this new AI feature was so much better and saved me a ton of time! What a great update to Lightroom! Thank you!

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johnb23361187

Participant

I wish there was a checkbox on the new remove tool that says "remove object and replace with matching background". I find that many times when I remove a person, it get a different person. If I try to remove a tree branch, I just get a different tree branch. I want the object removed.

Erik Bloodaxe

Legend

Take note of this as stated in this discussion thread on May 24:

"Substitutes come most often from not removing Cast Shadows, Reflections and non-contiguous parts of the object being removed. If you get a phantom, you likely need to examine your removed item for those items.

If the AI sees a shadow outside the remove area, it will try to provide an object to cast it..."

Roland_Rick

Known Participant

1. Starting in Bridge, sending to ACR, using Eraser tool

2. using Generative AI, brush size 3

3. straight line drawn by Shift+click

Powerlines, specially across canapes of forest and bushes result in a blurry error.

4. Can't upload the NEF from the D850 (47 Megapixel). That 47 MB limit is quite a bad idea if you want customers to upload todays raw files from cameras having > 45 megapixel images. Error message see attachment. Who the heck makes such idiot decisions at Adobe? Fire that person.

Erik Bloodaxe

Legend

Yes, I have seen the blurry effect often generated when removing power lines and similar.

Personally I have found the Heal tool better at this. Usually it generates perfect results and of course it does not deplete your Generative Credits of which I receive only 250 per month!

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Jaime359802357b15

Participant

I really like the access through the camera RAW, and I have a suggestion. could you include the option to NOT generate people in the generation? When you want to delete people it is very frustrating.

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PinkPanties

Participant

am loving generative remove but sometimes I wish AI could peg on abit better that sometimes I really literally want an item to be REMOVED and not replaced with an alternative item. An example would be me trying to remove the corner of a painting on a white wall and instead of having it replaced with the background of a white wall, I am given various choices of alternative paintings to replace said corner of painting ha!

jon@jwgalleries.com

Participant

I've noticed a couple of glitches using Generative AI. I've noticed in some cases, that the outline of the selction appears on the modified image. I've also noticed that some of the generated area is both unsharp, and doesn't match the original image's noise pattern.

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Nurit Nuki0101

Participant

Hi, Thank you for including the generative ai tool in lightroom. According to my short experience it does not do its job in the edges and especially in the corners. I attach an example file. Look at the bottom right corner.

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