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YASAR8
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June 7, 2025
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P: No longer supports DNG creation from Denoise option (CR)

  • June 7, 2025
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Hello,

First of all, I have been commenting on https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/camera-raw-amp-dng-converter-17-3-are-now-available/m-p/15304156#M28108  but nobody replied also send a message to Adobe employee but also didnt get any reply. I made the comment during the BETA so I hoped that this wont be published to main product but nobody take action. So I decided to write here.
Since the latest update of Camera Raw (17.4) there is no posibility to create DNG file from .NEF file

Editing (Denoise etc) creating .acr on the file directory which is no use to me.

My work flow was like this
1. Open 10 photo on Camera Raw
2. Select all the photos and denoise to create new DNG file for each of them (Screenshot 1)

 

The reason to do that, its always much better to work on DNG files for me. That option creates a Denoise for all the selected photos according to selected sharpening and denoise value (Screenshot 2)

With the 17.4 this option has gone
1. Denoise option is working only for the first photo (if multi selected) 
2. Value is always set to %50, then once is beeing processed then value can be changed. But there is no multi photo processing. Each file has to be denoise seperately. (This is insane)
3. Denoise option do not create seperate DNG file instead it creates .acr file on file directory. 
4. DNG file can be opened in photoshop and can be edited etc but .acr file is not.
I do not know what was the idea of changing this but I am not happy about it. Please let me know what you think and how I can improve the situation. Because at this moment my workflow almost slowed like %95 percent. Creating DNG file and working on it is so important for me.
Thanks

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    James26323574plnc
    Participant
    June 30, 2025

    I'm not impressed by this new change. Whilst it's nice to be able to roll the change back and not have an additional DNG the process is flawed.

    Not only can I not seemingly set the % until it's analysed the image, the analysis seems to be incredibly slow compared to before. It's like it's not using the GPU. It's taken over 5 minutes to even analyse the image and I still can't set the actual denoise %.

    This is on an Intel i7-10700K with an RTX 3050.

    The above makes this feature unusable. Not to mention many people reporting its now incredibly hard to batch "Enhance" images now. Maybe I am missing something, maybe I'm not but this seems like another Adobe change that wasn't needed and is a step backwards in my opinion.



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      YASAR8Author
      Known Participant
      June 30, 2025

      I totally agree with you. New denoising also feels slow to me plus I cannot set % before its denoised already. I also dont understand why people are so silent about it. Either they were not using it or not using it the way how we use it. Enhanced DNG was unique and beautiful work.

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        James26323574plnc
        Participant
        June 30, 2025

        I've just installed the very latest GeForce drivers and it's much faster.now so maybe an issue between Adobe and the GeForce drivers (for me at least). Still feels clunky though.

        Jeff Arola
        Community Expert
        Jeff ArolaCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        June 9, 2025

        If in the Camera Raw preferences you go to Technology Previews and uncheck New AI Features and Settings Panel, then after restarting Bridge or Photoshop that should get you the Denoise saved as a DNG.

         

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        YASAR8Author
        Known Participant
        June 9, 2025

        Hello, thank you for your reply. I am using excatly same version as yours 17.3.1 and that is fine. I am aware of this settings is turning on and turning off new feautures. That is how I was testing on BETA once they impelement this. But, my creative cloud desktop application gave me notification as a new update for Camera Raw last Friday. It was written 17.4 and I installed. 17.4 had this new feautres even if Technology preview is off. So then I thought ok, they seems really impelemented, I quickly uninstall and reinstall v17 then increase to v17.3.1
        However, there is no new update at the moment. Not sure how I was able to download v17.4 and how its not available right now. Maybe there was a mistake on Adobe end, not really sure about it.
        No matter what, I think I will not increase the new version of Camera Raw anymore. I do not want to have same problem again.

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        Antoinette34523314m3tf
        Participant
        June 28, 2025

        I am working on Mac and use Bridge to select the images  and ran into the same issues as you ( I  particularly don’t like that after you work up images you don't see the difference you made until you click the priview button and wait a moment) but think I found a work-around for the DNG files. 
        Once I applied the denoising and returned to Bridge I created an Export  "Preset" because

         "Export to DNG" didn't seem to work. . I made it to include " delete Raw", works just fine. 
        However I now realize that the Raw files with the side cars for the adjustments and the denoising are smaller files, so I just made another preset to export JPGs , high res, full size. Works fine for me.

         

         

        Erik Bloodaxe
        Erik Bloodaxe
        Legend
        June 8, 2025

        Denoise no longer produces a separate DNG file. This has been the case for quite a while and is a welcome improvement since Denoise settings can now be amended afterwards as and when necessary. The .acr file is a sidecar file associated with your RAW file and contains edit information, as do .xmp files. If you do not like this then your only option is to convert your RAW files to DNG files which are container files therefore have no associated sidecar files. This can be done before or after editing either using Adobe DNG Converter or by saving as DNG from within Camera Raw. You have the option to embed the original RAWs in the DNG files which can then be extracted at any time using DNG Converter if ever necessary. This is my preferred option as I do not keep the original RAWs since they are embedded in the DNGs should I need them. Other users I know keep both and store them separately. That's just fine if you have plenty of storage space.

        In addition I have no problem opening a batch of RAWs in Camera Raw, selecting all and applying Denoise to all. Seems to work fine for me in my Windows 11 system.

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          YASAR8Author
          Known Participant
          June 8, 2025

          Thanks for long reply which wasnt neccessary because I already know what file for. I have two question to you if you can get steps for me.
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          or by saving as DNG from within Camera Raw.

          How do you create DNG file within Camera Raw ? Where is the option if not Denoise creating DNG file.
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          In addition I have no problem opening a batch of RAWs in Camera Raw, selecting all and applying Denoise to all. Seems to work fine for me in my Windows 11 system.

          I also use Window 11 but as I explained above, if you select multi files and go to your "Details" tab at Camera Raw. Activating denoise option creates a denoise for all the files by %50 percent by default. (I did rollback my Camera Raw so I cannot excatly screenshot steps at the moment) Then keep the selected files after the process been done and click the value box then type new value as 30, click enter. Value is only applied to first photo. Rest of the photos have to be selected and again set to 30 for example.
          My workflow requires to keep all RAW files untouched and create new DNG file from them then contunie working with. I am working with batch of photos sometime up to 300 have to be opened in Camera Raw, sometime 60 of them needs to be converted seperate DNG file (Yes, each of the photos like 60mb-70mb and creating DNG from them sometime 250mb each. I do have space, no problem with that)

          Point 2 seems to be bug for me, if you have any suggestion to Point 1 then please let me know.

          Thanks

          Erik Bloodaxe
          Erik Bloodaxe
          Legend
          June 8, 2025

          Here is how to Save as DNG from within Camera Raw:

          Regarding your second point, I agree that selecting a bunch of RAWs and applying Denoise uses the default 50% setting, but once that is complete that setting can be edited to whatever you want either individually or as a batch. I tried this with 10 RAWs, applied Denoise to them all simultaneously then reset to 30%. All were reset to 30% with no issue.

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