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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

Reshae37076217n5s7

Participant

I tried to use the new filter to remove the reflection of a sign behind the person taking my photo in front of a movie poster, and it didn’t even remove it. I’ll attach.

ThomasH_on_the_web

Inspiring

In some cases the reflection removal works really wonders, but leaves corrupted, blurred artifacts in the resulting image. This is an example of extreme reflection in a glass in a California Mission Museum:

Original Image, HEIC from Samsung Galaxy phone.

And this is after the reflection removal, admittedly stunningly effective:

Reflection removed, but blurry artifacts added.

Notice especially on the left side wing the rather large blurred blotches. And of course the red/magenta on the left side of the frame is also an undesired effect of the algorithm. As an experiment I use the “New Gen. Remove Spot” on this artifact and the result is clearly better:

Red/Magenta blotch on the left side removed

Sandeep Dattaraju

Participant

I kindly request you to also add Lens Flare removal under this option, it would be awesome! Currently the reflection removal is not considering lens flare.

ThomasH_on_the_web

Inspiring

In some cases the algorithm works wonders, and clearly gives a fantastic result to troubled museum images. In others for some reason both before and after images are virtually identical. This is another such example (Mission St.Francis de Asis Museum in San Francisco). The museum is very difficult to photograph. Everything is behind the glass or plexiglass. Exit door points to west, thus sun rays contribute to extreme light reflections. Even so, the reflection removal works on some inages. Here is an example of a diorama of a Native Village. A total failure to remove reflections. I have not spotted any difference of “before” and “after”. The image is a HEIF from a Samsung Galaxy phone.

ThomasH_on_the_web

Inspiring

Sometimes a manual “New Gen. Remove Spot” can be used to remove at least some of the reflections. Of course it is not working on busy details, such as the tree on the right side. But others can lead to a dramatic improvement. This is one such example. Two separate “Remove Spot” were used to achieve this result.

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Bannon family

Participant

I’m getting very inconsistent results with the reflection removal function. It either works perfectly or not at all. see attachment for example of NOT at All.

Reflections not removed.xmp

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c.m.w

Participating Frequently

EDIT: I’ve just tried the same photo where reflection removal worked, and it does not work anymore. Slightly confused as to why it worked once then not the second time.

I’ve two photos, within the same indoor space, but looking from two different angles. One of them picked up the reflection really well, on the second, it did not recognise any reflections at all. I have a feeling it could be confused by perspective? In the image where it doesn’t work, the reflections could be mistaken for lights inside the room I’m looking into, rather than lights reflecting onto the glass from outside the room.

Sticks090460

Participant

I have yet to get this tool to work, even with really obvious reflections. It’s odd because remove people and suchlike work like a dream, but this one…….does nothing.

T.E.photo

Participant

I seem to be having issues with the AI features lately. For instance, the denoise feature sometimes does nothing to the photo, even when the slider is adjusted all the way to 100. I am having the same issue with the reflection removal.

Alex_Bre_0009

Participant

Unfortunately it doesn’t work for me. Tried it several times. I’m on a Mac with the latest Photoshop.

poppaneedsanap

Participant

same here. Older intel macbook, current CC, same result

DHomer

Participant

I have clear reflections in my subject’s glasses, but even at the best setting, it is not able to remove these, even at 200% and having the box around the glasses

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