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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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mgroeteke

Participating Frequently

A masking option would be very useful to mask out areas which are erroneously corrected by the algorithm.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

If you want to mix together parts of the two images, you should open the images as layers in photoshop. You can open the -100, 0, and +100 as layers. Use an alpha mask to blend as needed. This is the intended workflow.

BK_2069

Known Participant

Yeah, but this is lightroom, not photoshop??

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roman_4849

Participant

In my example the sun was removed from the picture

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Wow this is a terrific result. You can fix errors like the sun removal by creating a photoshop file. Overlay the original or the reflection as a layer, and blend back in the content you want to keep (the sun).

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zeetoe25

Known Participant

Hello,

I have a iMac 27 in 5K with Intel 3.7 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5, Graphics Card Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, and 64GB or Ram, OS Sequoia 15.6.1. I've also checked and the Graphics Card supports Metal 2. I've had no problems with all the other AI improvements to PS and ACR. Everytime I've tried to remove a reflection I get the attached results. Any ideas would be Greatly appreciated. I'm pretty sure my computer meets the Specs.

Thanks,

Dennis

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LAMY2017

Legend

zeetoe, you'll get better results from this community if you start a new conversation. Your issue doesn't seem to match the problem in this discussion.

Double-check me on whether your machine has at least the minimum required to run Ps 2025.

Photoshop system requirements

Looks like your processor, VRAM, OS, Graphics are ok.

I have a question about Intel or AMD CPUs having AVX2 support and hard disk space.

Have you tried to uncheck the Use Graphics Processor box?

Larry

Pascalpalou

Participant

J'ai utilisé la suppression des reflets sur une reproduction de tableau ancien , ces quelques reflets étaient dû à un mauvais éclairage. Je n'ai constaté aucune amélioration....

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This tool is designed to remove reflections from plate glass windows that cover the camera's field of view. Check out the Adobe blog to learn more about what it does.

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Havard Isnitt

Participant

Reflection removal still has a loong way to go...

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Please post the images that are causing problems for you. Most first time users do not understand what the tool does.

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Roy29313004gra2

Participant

I tried several times to use Reflection removal in Lightroom Classic - no response at all - This is a .HEIC file

The reflections on the top 3/4 of the photo are off the tour boats windows (Inside lighting for patrons to walk around). The bottom 1/4 are reflections on the river (which I would like to keep)

Thank you to anyone that can help

Roy W. Hill

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Exuberant_Flair16E5

Participating Frequently

I think the tool mainly works with RAW files.

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Dariuske

Participant

Seems completely ineffectice for rempving windowshiels reflections

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

This tool will not remove reflections from small panes of glass that are part of the scene. That is the correct result from the tool, and it has been disscused many times in this forum. To learn more about what the tool does, please check out the Adobe blog.

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TxRanger

Inspiring

The tool removed the reflections including the rainbow. It also added a bunch of texture in the upper 1/3 of the photo.

NZ8_4081_copy.zip

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Thanks for sharing! Super interesting. Unfortunately, rainbows are in fact reflections, and they often can cover your entire camera view (like in this photo). So it's not surprising that the tool removed the rainbow. This tool removes transparent things. Sorry if the result is not useful for you.

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ludovic_4955

Participant

On this poor picture, remove reflexion tool remove lights but not reflections on the window.

I hope it will help to improve your new tool.

Best regards

Ludovic

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Try zooming in next time.

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Canonballer

Participant

There is no doubt that this tool is impressive. I first used it when taking photos of London from the "Sky Garden" located on the 35th, 36th, and 37th floors of the "Walkie-Talkie" building in Fenchurch Street, within the city of London's "Square Mile", which offers stunning views across London. There is an large, external, public viewing gallery / balcony, which is great, but this has a high glass safety screen through which you have to shoot if you want to take photos of the views. Using the reflection removal tool on the images I shot, meant that images that otherwise would have been unuseable, became virtually flawless views of the capital, which I was really please with.

However, having since tried using it on shots taken through shop windows, into the shops concerned, where reflections from the high street behind me were more complex, it has shown its limitations (see before and after examples attached). You can still see reflections from the high street evident, particularly on the two shop assistants.

Camera was an Olympus OMD-EM10 with the kit M.Zuiko 14-42mm EZ lens. The RAW (ORF) image was then processed in Lightroom (including the reflections removal, at the highest quality) and then transferred into PhotoShop and saved as a JPEG. My desktop PC spec is as follows:

Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700 (2.10 GHz)
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Yea that's a difficult case. Please stay tuned for updates!

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