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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
November 5, 2024
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P: Reflection Removal feedback (CR & LrClassic)

  • November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.  

 

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos. 

 

Note: 

  • The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.
  • There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release. 

 

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post. 

 

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature: 

  • Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate). 
  • Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox. 
  • Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

When using the slider, the key values to note are: 

  • 0 – the input photo
  • 100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo 
  • -100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera) 

 

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience. 

 

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future. 

 

Example use-cases for the feature include: 

  • Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.) 
  • Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows) 
  • Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.) 

 

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions: 

  • Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
    • The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
    • If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
  • Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
  • If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


Update (01-16-2025)

 

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report.  A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

 

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

 

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

534 replies

Participant
December 24, 2024

 

Hi,i tried this but there is an error coms up as photo attached showup. 

Adobe Employee
December 30, 2024

Please share your original RAW file. I have never seen anything like this, and do not believe that it is an output from the tool.

j b thompson
Participant
December 24, 2024

Windows 10, Intel Core i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M,   Photoshop (Beta) 26.3.0, have .NEF file open in Camera Raw 17.1.0.2100. When I try to remove reflections it always fails with-    Unable to remove reflections. There was an unknown error.

Participating Frequently
December 24, 2024

Here's a .nef file that was not helped much...

Thanks for working on this!

 

 

Participant
December 24, 2024

Doesn't work on my Canon RAW CR2 files on my PC. Works on Sony ARW files??

Participant
December 24, 2024

I'm trying to use the reflection removing tool on CR3 Format file and I get an error that this photo format is not supported.

as CR3 is cannon RAW format. why it doesn't work? 

 

Inspiring
December 28, 2024

That happens when you open the RAW file in Photoshop, then run the Camera RAW filter. You have to open it up in Camera RAW, not the filter version. I just drag and drop my Canon CR3 files directly onto Photoshop, which it then opens up correctly. Also, once you exit Camera RAW, you can only use the filter version, and won't get back any history of your changes, and can't run denoise or reflection removal. 

Participant
December 24, 2024

Did not work at all. Photo taken through an airplane window showing reflections of photographer's shirt. Nothing. Zip. Nada. Zero. The "processed" image was identical to the source image. Note to self: do not fall for large claims. They are usually going to be BS.

Participant
December 26, 2024

In my case just darkened the photo

Participant
December 24, 2024

The tool failed to recognize reflections in glasses in a portrait. The Reflections checkbox was grayed out.

Participant
December 23, 2024

Will not work with my computer, these are my results with this tool. Thanks

 

Versione di Adobe Photoshop: 26.2.0 20241207.r.140 bc85906 x64
Numero di avvii: 18
Sistema operativo: Windows 11 64 bit
Versione: 11 o versione successiva 10.0.26100.2605
Architettura di sistema: Famiglia CPU AMD:15, Modello:1, Stepping:2 con MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, AVX-512, HyperThreading
Conteggio processore fisico: 8
Conteggio processore logico: 16
Velocità processore: 3793 MHz
Memoria incorporata: 31894 MB
Memoria disponibile: 20444 MB
Memoria disponibile per Photoshop: 24491 MB
Memoria usata da Photoshop: 70 %
Gestione arresti anomali: Adobe
DCX Version: 7.24.8
SAM SDK Version: 9.1.0.1-fio
ACP.local Status:
- SDK Version: 4.0.0.5
- Core Sync Status: Reachable and compatible
- Core Sync Running: 7.2.0.58
- Min Core Sync Required: 4.3.66.28
Versione SDK Live Edit Client: 4.0.6
Adobe Firefly: utilizzate qualsiasi funzione di IA generativa per visualizzare la versione più recente.
OpenColorIO versione: 2.4.0
Versione libreria C2PA: adobe_c2pa/0.12.2 c2pa-rs/0.32.5
Versione NGL: 1.39.0.9
Lavagna: disattivato.
Creazione documento lavagna: disattivato.
Renderer D3D12Warp: disattivato.

 

Inspiring
December 23, 2024

I tried another image with lens flare, this time a lot more complicted.  The Remove Reflection worked well on it.

Here's the beginning image as it appeared in ACR:

Here's what it looked like after removing the "reflections."

Notice that I still have a burned out warning about the center of the sun, but all of the reflections inside the lens that resulted in the multiple lens flare spots are gone.  And the nice thing about this is that it did not try to remove the star bust rays from the sun.  A couple years ago I spent a long time cleaning up this image with traditional tools in Photoshop.

 

After a couple minutes in ACR here's what I had:

There's still more work that needs to be done, but the "repair" that was previously very tedious was accomplished in a couple minutes.  Being able to focus on the creative changes is really nice.

Adobe Employee
December 30, 2024

Thank you for sharing! We are hearing many reports of this.

Inspiring
December 23, 2024

I've continued experimenting with the Reflection Removal feature of ACR and have found that it does a pretty good job of removing lens flare from images shot looking into the sun.  My test files were Nikon .nef files shot with a D850.  I also noticed that it is sensitive to the order in which ACR is activated.  It seems that one must open the raw image directly from Photoshop and not throught Adobe Bridge.

Rgrenader
Known Participant
December 25, 2024

Or directly from Lightroom Classic, which also disables the tool.