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November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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MStrathmore

Participant

Hi folks, great feature that shows a lot of promise. Didn't work for me unfortunately- here's the before and after. This is a (bad) shot out of a tourbus window that I wanted to experiement with before using on other photos.

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Haawoo37203051z6un

Participant

when I use reflection removal tool in camera raw , it shows an error 'unable to remove reflections, there was an unknown error. I tried many photos. it shows same error message. I had switched on technology preview check box before starting. Could you pls give me a replay. thanks

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NatalieRC

Participant

I'm getting a message "the reflection removal tool is currently not compatible with this file format" for a Canon raw file .CR3. But the help says it doesn't work non-raw files. This is a raw file. Is Canon compatibility coming soon? Or do I need to update something? Thank you!

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Chapps-LA

Inspiring

I have no problem with it working with my Canon .CR3 RAW files. Are you dropping it directly into (updated) Photoshop? If you attempt to open from Lightroom, it won't work. Just drop the CR3 file into Photoshop, and you should be OK.

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vincef14148664

Participant

I have a very old computer running Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 graphics card. The Reflection Removal tool gives me an "unknown error" message soon after the progress bar starts. Is it because the graphics card is too old to be compatible?

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RandyF79

Participating Frequently

Thank you so much for ths great new option!

One issue I've encountered is that if I am starting in LrC with a NEF (raw) file...and I want to take via "Edit In..." to Photoshop to do the reflection removal, the only two options for file format are TIFF and PSD, neither of which will work with Reflection Removal. Is there a way to fix this? Othewise, I have had to Export the original file and bring it into Photoshop via "Open..." and then it is multiple steps to get it back into LrC and replace the original. Thank you!

Averil2

Known Participant

Try Edit in PS as a smart object when you send from LRC to PS

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louise__s

Participant

I was so excited to use this and here are the steps I followed. Opened an image in Lightroom Classic. Converted to DNG, close LRC and the opened the file in Photoshop and then CMD+SHIFT+A for camera raw and it's constantly disabled. See the screenshot below. I've tried everything and all versions of the software are up to date. What am I doing wrong?

Conrad_C

Community Expert

I was so excited to use this and here are the steps I followed. Opened an image in Lightroom Classic. Converted to DNG, close LRC and the opened the file in Photoshop and then CMD+SHIFT+A for camera raw and it's constantly disabled.
By @louise__s

It’s because of what I posted earlier: The image must stay raw all the way into Photoshop, as a raw Smart Object layer, and it has to be opened into Camera Raw through Edit Contents, not through Camera Raw Filter (Command-Shift+A is the shortcut for Filter > Camera Raw Filter, which again, will never, ever work for any features requiring a raw source).

Again, if you want to start from Lightroom Classic, the steps that should work are:

1. Before you begin, make sure that in Camera Raw Preferences / Technology Previews, the option New AI Features and Settings Panel is enabled.

2. From Lightroom Classic, in the Develop module choose Photo > Edit In > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop.

3. In the new Photoshop document that’s created, double-click that raw Smart Object layer (or select that layer and choose Layer > Smart Objects > Edit Contents).

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Steve0412

Participant

Had no effect (+100)

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Steve0412

Participant

.NRW file, Windows 10 Camera Raw 17.1

Averil2

Known Participant

Pretty Cool tool! It pretty much worked for me. It didn't remove all the reflections so I would suggest to put a function in that can add the missed reflections for the tool to remove.

Cmp=Macbook Pro Apple M2 Max Sequoia 15.2 Lightroom Classic 14.1.1

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gabriele_3429

Participant

Spettacolare!! Grazie è davvero potente!! Vedi esempio

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Mike-in-AK

Participating Frequently

I got here by clicking "Provide Feedbaclk." I had just the photo to try the Reflection Removal Tool on. It originated as an Olympus (TG-6 camera model) ORF RAW file that I had Lightgroom Classic convert to DNG when I imported the photo into LrC. I made sure the Reflection feature was activated in Photoshop Camera RAW. Restarted PS and Imported the file into Photoshop from Lightroom (tried both just a straight edit in, and also edit as Smart Object). There, I found I could NOT click the Reflections checkbox. There was a triangle with an "!" in it. When I clicked that, I was sent to an Adobe webpage with the info: "Currently, the Reflection Removal tool does not support non-raw file formats like JPEG and HEIC." But, this was a DNG file created by LrC (latest version).

Following someone's post, below, I also found that the feature was available if I opened the file directly in Photoshop. When it works, it is pretty remarkable, I must say.

M2 Mac Studio, macOS Sequoia v15.2

LrC v14.1

PS v26.1.0

Adobe Camera Raw v17.1.0.2100

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oberth

Participant

There is a problen in windovs with pictures just behind the glass