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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
November 5, 2024
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P: Reflection Removal feedback (CR & LrClassic)

  • November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.  

 

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos. 

 

Note: 

  • The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.
  • There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release. 

 

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post. 

 

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature: 

  • Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate). 
  • Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox. 
  • Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

When using the slider, the key values to note are: 

  • 0 – the input photo
  • 100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo 
  • -100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera) 

 

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience. 

 

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future. 

 

Example use-cases for the feature include: 

  • Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.) 
  • Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows) 
  • Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.) 

 

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions: 

  • Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
    • The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
    • If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
  • Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
  • If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


Update (01-16-2025)

 

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report.  A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

 

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

 

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

537 replies

Participant
December 13, 2024

I just tried the Reflection Removal tool for the first time. It totally blew me away. Very cool.

I would love to be able to apply this to existing JPG or PSD files. I don't know what technical limitations may stand in the way, but I can dream can't I?

Geoff Bagnall

Participant
December 12, 2024

The tool has real potential. It works well on images take at an angle to the glass surface. WIth images taken straight on my success have varied. Fairly often the AI recognizes my reflection as the subject and takes out what is behind the glass. Really busy reflections with clouds, power lines, autos, etc. seem to confuse the AI or the AI does not recognixe them at all. A great start on a tool that could be very useful in many situations.

 

Participant
December 12, 2024

This new tool worked spectacularly on a picturte taken in front of a fireplace with a glass door. Wonderful!

Just as an FYI and aid to the talented developers of this tool -- did not work with the same image in PSD format, only DNG.  Not a complaint, just an observation.

Known Participant
December 12, 2024

Im seeing Graphics card memory usage around 15GB after loading a 45MP from a Canon R52.  Is this what we should expect and should we be looking at cards with more memory than this? If one has a card with more memory will this make the process quicker? I've been trying this using a 4080 mobile system (12Gb).

I've unsucessfully not been able to remove redlections from the front screens of trams. 

Participating Frequently
December 12, 2024


The screenshot speaks itself

ruan13o
Participant
December 27, 2024

It's a tool to help.  It's not magic.  That is a terrible photo to start with.

Inspiring
December 12, 2024

How do you even use it?

I tried all kinds of image formats and it always stays disabled and says that it doesn't support my image format. This is dumb...

David Franzen at Work
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
December 12, 2024

@lucellent wrote:

How do you even use it?

I tried all kinds of image formats and it always stays disabled and says that it doesn't support my image format. This is dumb...


 

Currently, the Reflections removal tool does not support non-raw file formats like JPEG and HEIC. 

 



Here is our help page about the feature.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/remove-reflections.html

You can reach this page (in any supported language) by clicking on the info (i) icon for Remove Reflections.

Participating Frequently
December 12, 2024

The tool did not work. This is the result

Known Participant
December 12, 2024

I get similar digital hash every time in WIndows but I have seen some passable results in X86 macOS with AMD graphics.

The Windows machine has newer and more powerful GPU/CPU than the Apple machine so not sure why the total failures.

Hopefully this will get to the level of Generative AI, even in Windows.

Inspiring
January 30, 2025

The problem can also occur on Mac OS 15.1.1 with 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 when processing a Canon CR3 RAW file. I was giving it a spin on a photo of a storefront window. The results of 5+ minutes of processing were purple, cyan, green, and magenta blocks. I suppose it could be an Intel CPU and Radeon Pro 555X 4 GB GPU combination issue with older chipsets.