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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
November 5, 2024
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P: Reflection Removal feedback (CR & LrClassic)

  • November 5, 2024
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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.  

 

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos. 

 

Note: 

  • The feature currently only works on raw photos. Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.
  • There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release. 

 

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post. 

 

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature: 

  • Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate). 
  • Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox. 
  • Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing. 
  • Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise. 

When using the slider, the key values to note are: 

  • 0 – the input photo
  • 100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo 
  • -100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera) 

 

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience. 

 

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future. 

 

Example use-cases for the feature include: 

  • Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.) 
  • Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows) 
  • Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.) 

 

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions: 

  • Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
    • The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
    • If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
  • Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
  • If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

 

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group 


Update (01-16-2025)

 

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report.  A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

 

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

 

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

618 replies

Participating Frequently
December 21, 2024

How can one post on here if you upload one image? You can only view about one-third of it, and I have no idea how to add explanations. It does not work on pictures hanging on a wall.

Adobe Employee
December 30, 2024

Try using the -100 slider position. Please also consider posting the original RAW.

Participating Frequently
December 21, 2024

Participant
December 21, 2024

ほとんど役に立ちませんでした。結果を添付します。

 

Adobe Employee
December 30, 2024

This is expected. Please refer to this Blog post to understand how to use the remove reflection tool, and when it is most effective.

Participant
December 21, 2024

I tried this feature on a noisy image. If I just remove reflections, the resulting image looks pretty good (other than the noise). If I run AI noise removal afterwards, I get prompted to update AI and the reflections come back. If I run noise reduction first, the reflection removal generates poor results. I think you need to look at how these two AI functions interact with one another.

tombeuschelsr
Participant
December 21, 2024

When I open a RAW file directly into ACR from Bridge (without opening PS) and process the file per your suggestion, everything is good until I hit the "Open" button.

At this point, PS attempts to open and gets to the home screen, and without opening the file and freezes/crashes. My only recourse is to end the task through Task Manager, as none of the buttons on the home screen function.

However, if I open a RAW file from Bridge going directly to PS, which then opens ACR, processes the file, and hits OPEN, all proceeds as normal with no problem.

I prefer opening RAW files directly into ACR, but when using  Distraction Removal>Reflections I now know I'll have to use the alternate method.

I like your new tool.

Per your request, I work on the following:

Windows 11 Pro

 

 

 

 

 

Known Participant
December 21, 2024

Here is a picture with lots of reflections. This is a jpg but I edited the RAW file. The new Reflections tool did absolutely nothing

Adobe Employee
December 30, 2024

This is expected. Please refer to this Blog post to understand how to use the remove reflection tool, and when it is most effective.

Known Participant
December 21, 2024

First., there is the very strange behaviour of Camera Raw. The feature is unavailable on RAW files unless I open Camera Raw from Bridge. I have noticed this behaviour with other features that are supposed to be available in Camera Raw. None come to mind at the moment but this is a case in point. Yes, I am working with a RAW file and yes, the Tech Preview feature is on in all cases. The feature is disabled from Photoshop and Photoshop Beta. Second, I am not impressed. The image I used provided no results whatsoever and yes, I moved the slider all over its range.

johnnya77883842
Participant
December 21, 2024

Not working for me I keep getting this kind of glitch

 

My system info
Windows 11 Pro
amd ryzen 9 7900x

ASUS ProArt B650-CREATOR AMD B650 AM5 Ryzen™ Desktop 9000 8000 and 7000 ATX motherboard





VisualDigits
Inspiring
December 21, 2024

After watching Unmesh's video on this topic I just retried the feature by opening a Raw directly from Photoshop.

Surprise - it worked. But when I open the same image from Lightroom it does not work because PS thinks its not a raw foto.

Participant
December 21, 2024
that technique did not work for me
Participant
December 20, 2024

I read somewhere today that we have to open the raw file right into ACR (open a raw file in PS directly - goes right into ACR) for this to work. That did it! Previously, I was using the ACR filter once I opened the photo in PS using 'edit in' in LR Classic. This feature doesn't yet work when you get to it using the ACR filter.  

Participant
December 21, 2024
ive opened Fujifilm and Nikon raw files directly into Photoshop and applied
the Camera Raw Filter.
Reflection Removal is grayed out and info message says file format
incompatible.
This filter isn't even beta, its more like alpha plus. Adobe really dropped
the ball and let it roll downhill.
Participating Frequently
December 20, 2024

Didn't work in my case, perhaps because it's having a hard time distinguishing the reflection. It did increase the contrast, tho.