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This post applies to Adobe Camera Raw plug-in.

Adobe Camera Raw team is sharing an early look of our new Reflection Removal feature, which removes reflections caused by plate glass surfaces from photos.

Note:

~~The feature currently only works on raw photos.~~ Support for JPEGs & HEICs is added in the April 24 Update.

There is a known issue on some Windows machines where the feature may produce a corrupt image. We are working on a fix for the upcoming release.

Check out HelpX for more detailed usage information. For more technical information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Blog post.

Getting started with the Reflection Removal feature:

Make sure you have the “New AI Features and Settings Panel” Technology Preview enabled in the Camera Raw plug-in Preferences dialog (requires restarting the host application to activate).

Go to the Remove panel [B] , and in the “Distraction Removal” section, click on the “Reflections” checkbox.

Optionally adjust the slider after the ML model is done computing.

Use the rest of the Camera Raw tools just like you would otherwise.

When using the slider, the key values to note are:

0 – the input photo

100 – de-reflected (window reflections removed) photo

-100 – reflection photo (what the window was reflecting towards the camera)

Please try the feature and share feedback in this community forum. It would help to include details like how you access Camera Raw (via Adobe Bridge or Photoshop), your computer system details, and as much information about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

When to use Reflection Removal

The feature is designed to deal with large-area reflections when shooting through windows. Many other types of reflections occur in nature and are captured in photographs, but this feature may not recognize and handle those. We plan to work on expanding the supported reflection types in the future.

Example use-cases for the feature include:

Looking through windows inside-out (e.g., from the car, airplane, room windows, etc.)

Looking through windows outside-in (e.g., shop windows)

Museums (e.g., paintings behind glass, glass case exhibits, etc.)

How best to use Reflection Removal

For best results, try the new feature following these suggestions:

Apply Reflection Removal before applying any other edits to the photo, except for Enhance features such as Denoise
- The changes made to the photo may be quite profound and render any changes you already made inappropriate.
- If you plan to use both Enhance (Denoise, Super Resolution, or Raw Details) and Reflection Removal on a photo, it is better to apply Enhance first.
Play with the feature slider and adjust the removal strength as appropriate.
If you applied Adobe Adaptive (beta) profile prior to running the Reflection Removal feature, please update it or you may see traces of removed reflections still present in the photo (Adobe Camera Raw will remind you to do this).

Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, Emerging Products Group

Update (01-16-2025)

To improve the performance and results of this feature, it is important that examples of images that are failing to properly remove the reflections are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on this Tech Preview!

If you have already shared your raw file with us - thank you!

~Rikk

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Correct answer Conrad_C

This reply, earlier in this thread, explains why:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/p-reflection-removal-feedback-cr-amp-lrclassic/m-p/15405349#M28971

Also, it isn’t called “glare reduction.”

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sonjon

Participant

Morning - I used the new remove reflections once on a tiff file, and it worked really well. But only once, it now report that the tiff file is not compatible? Help much appreciated.

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brcssc

Known Participant

I love the idea of the reflections filter, but I have photos going back years that are all jpgs and wish to use it in that format as well. I also do cell phone photography when my camera isn't handy. When is it likely to be available for jpgs? For me, that will be at least as useful and probably more since I am now editing many of my old photos which were done before I switched to raw.

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miguel_angel_6973

Participating Frequently

Bueno, si vemos que no está funcionando, en muchas ocasiones, en RAW que es lo que promete Adobe, como va a funcionar en JPG.

Seguramente cuando funcione la herramienta bien, será util también con JPG.

Saludos.

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DrSo

Participant

Tool missing for long, thanky You!

I've just tried it on photos done in a museum. The museum objects are behind glass. Therefore I have reflections in the glass

On simple reflections, when only myslef is reflected in the glass, it works perfectly.

On double refections - myself and some ofter lit background objects are refelcted - the tool takes only one reflection out (I'm gone, but the lit background is still visible)

There is no slider to refine this.

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hhelmbold

Known Participant

Great idea and great when it works but would love to see this work on eyeglasses. When people wear eye glasses that catches the flash or other reflections I would love to be able to remove those and just see the person's eyes

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johnwhession

Participant

Tool did not work on HDR DNG. Here is the result of the tool. Too bad you don't have the file size limit to upload what we architectural photographers are doing these days.

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

The tool is designed to remove reflections from plate glass windows that cover most of the field of view, whereas these reflections are in a small glass door on the left. Please check the blog post for our discussion of these limitations, and future plans.

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Mipeve

Participant

Hola, probemoos esta herramienta en unas pocas fotos con reflejos en las gafas pero en ninguna me funciono, solo en un par de ellas se ve algun cambio pero es minimo

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Asarhaddon

Participant

Neither this new update nor the previous one that removed the electricity poles and wires work. I don't understand what we pay for if we can't use the updates in any way

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miguel_angel_6973

Participating Frequently

En mi caso la eliminación de cables si funciona, pero la eliminación de personas nunca.

olivert78949376

Participant

The tool makes a fantastic first impression. I tested it with window reflections but also with lens flares and bright spots resulting from dirt or grease on the front element. It was able to correctly isolate most of these distractions.

I like the ability to isolate the distraction with the slider as this can be useful to create a mask in PS.

In all tests I noticed a resolution drop in the final images (left) compared to the unprocessed images (right). If this drop exists in the final version of the tool, I would hesitate to use it, but I assume this will be targeted eventually.

perwerkland

Participant

I experience the same drop in resolution/sharpness, so much that it makes the tool more or less useless for now.

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Alon28873073txva

Participant

Was trying to use this for removing a fence which is close to the camera and creates something similar to reflection. I'm not sure it's the right tool (I'm not a PS expert). Perhaps if there was a way to mask the detected reflection surrface (as can be seen in the attached reflection.png, when setting the bar to -100) could allow manual changes to further fix the image?

240707_00689-ARW.zip

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Eric29489323q7t4

Adobe Employee

Since remove reflections was able to separate some aspects of the fence into the reflection layer, you can open the clean image, and the reflection image, into two layers of a photoshop composite. You can then make custom adjustments to further improve the result. This will work best if you work in 32-bit mode before you flatten the composite into an 8-bit image for saving. See attached PSD.

240707_00689.zip