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March 13, 2009
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SOAP - what is it?!

  • March 13, 2009
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Hi All,
I work for a magazine and the majority of our subscriptions data is held in an in house database system, whilst the website db (content, login) is held on a MS SQL Server database on a shared hosting environment.

We are trying to integrate the two systems so they communicate in real time, so people can renew their subscription or change their address online. The technical team behind our subscription db say I need to connect to their db using SOAP, but I don't really know what SOAP is and can't seem to find a basic enough explanationt o get me started. Can anyone suggest any good coldfusion/SOAP resources or tutorials or a book I should buy?

There is also the suggestion that we store the username and password in our subscription database as well. Is using SOAP to communicate with the subscription database, the same as querying my web database? If so, there shouldn't be any problem storing the user login data in my subscription database. I'm just worred about the loss of control of my data - the whole thing makes me decidely nervous.

Has anyone done something similar and have tips?

Thanks in advance..Katie
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    Inspiring
    March 17, 2009
    > I realised the conversation was going nowhere,
    > however, instead of ignoring my response (as I intended you to when i deleted
    > it) you chose to got into details

    Just by-the-by, I'm not reading these messages via the web interface, so I
    don't get updates like "message deleted". You asked what a "newsgroup
    user" was before - I forgot to answer - the forums are available via three
    mechanisms I know of:
    - the main Adobe forums website
    - Google groups
    - NNTP feed to Usenet (news groups). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet.

    I use the latter, because I really can't stand web UIs for forums (the
    Adobe UI is bad enough; the Google one is even worse. IMO). However
    because of this, I don't get to see things like article cancellations and
    stuff like that because the Adobe forum software doesn't propagate them to
    Usenet. I had no idea you had deleted the article; and had I done so, I
    would have understood your intent, and not taken the time to reply (with
    another tirade! ;-)

    Sorry for the mix-up.

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    Adam
    Inspiring
    March 17, 2009
    > It's actually making me upset reading your response,

    Well I'm sorry about that. Honestly.

    Let's forget about all that previous carry-on, and focus on sorting out
    your web service situation.

    Where have you got to, and what's not working / not clear / etc / what do
    you need help with?

    I might be a grumpy old so-and-so, but I do like to help getting to the
    bottom of things. In my own way (cough)...

    ?

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    Adam
    Inspiring
    March 16, 2009
    It's actually making me upset reading your response, I understand that it's easy to misinterpret text (emails, text messages) and I guess that's what i have done - you obviously never meant to attack me in the first place.

    However, my response was accurate to how i felt on reading your first reply to me. I then deleted it because I realised the conversation was going nowhere, however, instead of ignoring my response (as I intended you to when i deleted it) you chose to got into details and write the essay above again attacking me - how was that necessary? Because you have to prove you were right? Perhaps thats why you enjoy using these forums so much.
    Inspiring
    March 14, 2009
    my son has asked that question all his life.
    Inspiring
    March 15, 2009
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    Inspiring
    March 14, 2009
    First things first, did you type "SOAP" into Google and read the Wikipedia
    article which is the first match? That explains what SOAP is. That might
    help you refine your question.

    Mikey also has you on the right track.


    Editorial comment (and not specifically aimed at you, Rollerskatie, because
    you're in good company):

    To be honest, it beggars my belief that "doing a Google search" is not the
    Very First Thing a person does when they don't understand a word or a term.
    I don't mean specifically in the context of this current question, but just
    in general. I personally would look up at least fifty (statistically
    unsound value) things every day that had me thinking "I don't know what
    that means". CFML stuff, CSS weirdness (all of today's googling was on CSS
    because I'm crap at it, yet that's what I'm doing @ present), error
    messages, words people in the office use that I'm not completely
    comfortable with, that actor in that TV show we're talking about, which pub
    to go to after work: *anything*.

    Back to this issue: I'm not sure reading a Wikipedia article on SOAP will
    solve your problem, Rollerskatie, but it will at least fine tune your
    question a bit from "SOAP - what is it?!".

    They're talking about web services. Have a look at the web services stuff
    in Livedocs, and see if it makes sense, and come back with any questions
    you have.

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    Adam
    March 13, 2009
    Would this be Katie Atkinson??

    As far as I can tell it's an XML thing which you consume as a web service via cfinvoke.

    Mikey
    Inspiring
    March 13, 2009
    Michael! I never realised that was you... Just reading a bit of Ben Forta's CF8 book and think I can figure it out - I'm just nervous about moving the user logins over to a different database - any advice?

    K