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Acrobat pdf: Convert to Destination Profile (confused)

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I'm stumped trying to understand how to use Acrobat's View> Tools> Print Production> Convert Colors settings.

I simply want to Convert all tagged elements to a single Destination profile.

I created this control set of 10 PDI images (in one PDF) of five color spaces (five tagged/untagged pairs):

gballard.net/photoshop/pdi_download/PDI_Color_Profile_Test.pdf

The control file displays as expected: untagged are Assuming sRGB (for lack of a better term) and tagged are being Converted to Monitor RGB.

I made my two most obvious guesses at the settings (see below), but both appear to be wrong (a sucessfull Conversion would at least display all the tagged elements the same, correctly, yes?).

Any idea what I may be missing?

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    Andrew Rodney wrote:

    I am able to extract the actual images embedded into your PDF within Acrobat and open them in Photoshop (Edit with), then place them into a new doc ID CS6.

    I tested three tagged images (Wacked, sRGB and Adobe RGB (1998)).

    Each previews differently IN ID CS6 with Wacked looking magenta.

    Preivew is wrong IF one places a Photoshop PDF saved that way from Photoshop (with embedded profile) in ID yet if one saves this instead as a Photoshop TIFF, they all preview the same as expected.

    In Acrobat 11, there is a command Document Processing>Export All Images. I select TIFF and extract all into a folder. Those images placed in ID preview correctly! I suspect the PDF made from them will be OK as well. There is no option to save off a "Photoshop PDF" which is a weird bird anyway. JPEG, TIFF, PNG. So at this point, stay away from saving anything as a Photoshop PDF and try TIFF.


    my original 10 iPhoto .jpg test images i packaged in Photoshop and set them up in InDesign and Export PDF...


    note: my iPhoto set is a different version og the PDI, but otherwised packaged identical to the original Photoshop control set


    i did not include the Apple RGB set in this test

    appears successful (probably the "weird bird" is Photoshop pdf now *highly suspect* format) — thanks to Andrew Rodney www.digitaldog.net

    this is Export PDF from Indesign CS6 — then — Convert Colors in Acrobat to the ProPhoto RGB desitnation profile (just what i expected):

    here is the InDesign build (default Working Space: sRGB):

    here are the InDesign Export PDF settings:

    here is the Exported PDF in Acrobat:

    here is the Exported PDF in Acrobat WITH CONVERTED COLORS to ProPhoto RGB destination profile embedded:


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    gator soupAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2013

    This one (open thumbnail below to examine settings)

    CONVERSION OPTIONS

    Convert Command: Convert to Profile

    Conversion Profile: Whacked RGB

    Output Intent (checked): Convert Colors to Output Intent: Profile: WhackedRGB.icc

    NOTE: None of the tagged elements display proper except WhackedRGB pair

    (I think Output Intent is Assigning Whacked RGB before Converting?)

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    gator soupAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2013

    This one (open thumbnail below to examine settings)

    CONVERSION OPTIONS

    Convert Command: Convert to Profile

    Conversion Profile: Whacked RGB

    Output Intent (unchecked)

    NOTE: None of the tagged elements display proper except WhackedRGB pair

    (This was my first instinct how to perform the desired transform)...


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    gator soupAuthor
    Inspiring
    March 20, 2013

    okay, here is Indesign> Export PDF (Print) BUG 2 in simple PDF:

    http://www.gballard.net/sRGB_Strip_Profile_Test.pdf

    NOTE: I have an error in the PDF, give me 30 minutes to update it...(updated, good to download both links)

    If an object is based on InDesign's Working profile, this workflow strips its profile regardless of Export> Output settings

    If you don't trust my screenshots, here is the project folder

    http://www.gballard.net/IDexportBug.zip

    It would be great if this was fixed (or at least looked at), too


    ROB DAY solved it (Bug 2)!!!

    Set your Profile Inclusion Policy to Include All RGB...

    I am not sure what the difference in wording is between "Include All RGB and Tagged Source CMYK Profiles" and what I was stuck on "Include Tagged Source Profiles"

    BUT the tagged image, text and gray box appear to all have retained their profiles using his setting:

    Futher,

    i just checked my original 10-image (five color spaces) PDF and the correct profiles were embedded in my five tagged objects

    still a problem with "Include All RGB and Tagged Source CMYK Profiles": my five untagged objects were assumed and tagged with Indesign's default RGB profile

    but at least I can predict the behavior now and work around it to do exactly what I want

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