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Adobe Illustrator 2022 is not detecting embedded profiles when placing an image

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Illustrator v26.0.3 Does not detect the embedded profiles of images placed. I have my CMYK working space set to GRACoL2006_Coated1v2, and the plicies are all set to preserve embedded profiles and to ask when there is a mismatch.

If I go to File-Place and select an image with an embedded profile, in this case U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2, I should be receiving a color mismatch warning, but I do not. When looking at the info palette the files color is simply described as CMYK. The resulting PDF file shows the image tagged with the GRACoL2006_Coated1v2.icc, which is the working space of the Illustrator document. Clearly it has ignored or not detected the embedded profile.

 

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    Correct answer Bob_Hallam

    That is what we were just wondering here amongst my team members. We may never know. Do you know of a way thatcan be ascertained? I've attached a screenshot of the Info.


    Save it as a PSD file in Photoshop.  If it doesn't change the warning then the file is not a proflem.  Check the document profile in Illustrator.  If that is the same as the image then there will be no warning. 

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    Bob_Hallam
    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    February 14, 2022

    The tiff file out of Capture One appears to be the problem.  There is not much difference in a psd file format and a tiff, but enough for testing purposes.  Glad you have this figured out now

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
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    February 14, 2022

    I'm with Neal on all this, it seems to be doing what it is supposed to be doing; the embedded profile doesn't match the preferred Working Space profile, you get that warning. The Embedded Profile Mismatch seems to be doing as it should.

    One possible issue could be the Place command which AFAIK, may not be hooked up to provide that mismatch. Paste (at least in Photoshop) would. Can you try Paste instead of Place and see if you get the same behavior?

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    alans50513998Author
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    February 14, 2022

    The mismatch warning screenshot came from Photoshop when I opened the image link, not Illustrator. I am not a designer and  we do not create the art, typically. We open customer supplied files and prepare them for printing, therefore we need Illustrator to properly honor embedded profiles of linked images. In this particular case and a couple others we've recently come across, it is not doing so. Further testing late last week after my post, showed that it was only an issue with certain images, that were supplied to us. I've tried to recereate the problem with my test images and have found them to work. I guess that measn the title of my Post does not apply 100% as a descriptor now. However, I am inteseted as to why this is happening with images that Photoshop can detect a mismatch but Illustrator cannot.

     

    Pasting the image does not work either.

    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
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    February 14, 2022

    If this is only happening with some images, well we need access to inspect what's going on with just those images to get to the bottom of this issue.

    Indeed, you need to and want to honor any supplied, embedded profiles.

    I wonder if, in some cases, the embedded profile is the same as you have set up as your preferred Working Space but you're not seeing that, hence no warning. You say the files color is simply described as CMYK, that's only the color model, not the actual color space defined by the profile, so maybe this is untagged or the profile is in sync? Again, without having a look at one of the documents, difficult to say remotely.

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    alans50513998Author
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    February 14, 2022

    My settings are set to wanr about profile mismatches, but on this occassion as it now seems, it didn't. It assigned the document space to the SWOP image. Further testing showed this to only be a problem with specific files. Still trying to see what is different about those tagged files versus other tagged files. The reason for honoring embedded profiles in a GRACoL workspace is to avoid a color shift.

    Bob_Hallam
    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    February 14, 2022

    Since this problem is centered around CMYK files and embedded profiles, Please tell me what you do when a CMYK file is tagged with a profile that is not your working space of GcaCol?  

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    alans50513998Author
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    February 14, 2022

    I work for a printing company which is contstantly receiving art from designers, and processing it to print on grand format digital inkjet devices. We always honor the embedded profile of artwork and its linked images. 

      NB, colourmanagement
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      NB, colourmanagementCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      February 14, 2022

      It seems Illustrator IS at least detecting the profile difference as you show the Embedded Profile Mismatch Dialog. [where (IF* you wish to embed a SWOP CMYK image into the 'GRACoL2006_Coated1V2' document) you did the right thing by selecting "use embedded profile"]

      *maybe you have a good reason for wanting to do that?

       

      An application reset may help-

      To restore preferences quickly using a keyboard shortcut

      Press and hold Alt+Control+Shift (Windows) or Option+Command+Shift (macOS) as you start Illustrator. The new preferences file is created the next time you start the program.

      Here’s a help article: https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/setting-preferences.html

       

      I hope this helps
      neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer:: Co-Author:Getting Colour Right
      google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

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