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August 29, 2022
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Color on iPhone 11 looks washed out compared to edits made on MacBook

  • August 29, 2022
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Currently editing photos on Lightroom and Photoshop (all set to sRGB) on an M2 Macbook Air 2022.

Photos look dynamic and colorful on the laptop, but as soon as I transfer to phone (iPhone 11 Pro) either via airdrop or lightroom mobile, the images become quite dull, washed out, low contrast. 

 

I've tried all sorts of exports and transfer methods, but with no real change in the quality. I've changed photo and display settings within the phone with no change either (true tone, night shift, etc.)

 

Is this just due to the display capabilities on the new device? Do I really need to edit elsewhere in order to edit in a way that reflects how the images will look on most devices that people view content on?

Looking for a solution to have the images I edit on my laptop look identical when I transfer them to a phone.

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    Participant
    February 25, 2025

    I have the same problems with my iphone 11!!! I don't like the display! it's worse than my previous iphone xs. it looks washed out, more yellow than orange. 

    NB, colourmanagement
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 1, 2025

    @orangecolastar please go here and download the Adobe RGB testimage: https://www.colourmanagement.net/downloads_listing/

    open it in Photoshop

     

    Now open this link on your iPhone 

    https://tinyurl.com/mobiletestimage-jpg

    are they close in appearance ?

     

    I hope this helps

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    NB, colourmanagement
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 1, 2022

    John, iPad [and iPhone] factory calibration is pretty reliable, they are quite consistent - of course brightness is very adjustable. 

    IF your main computer screen is correctly calibrated and profiled and if you save images with the sRGB ICC profile embedded they should reproduce well on. the iOS device. My iPhone X matches my calibrated Eizo Coloredge screen very well. 

    Here's an Adobe RGB image to try on the computer - and a version for the 1Pad / iPhone (view in Safari)

    With all set up correctly on your computer, these should match well

     

    I hope this helps
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    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2022

    John Paul...

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212851

    Every MacBook Pro with Liquid Retina XDR display undergoes a state-of-the-art factory display calibration process on the assembly line to ensure the accuracy of the P3 wide color panel and the individual backlight LEDs. In addition, the factory calibration process enables sophisticated built-in algorithms to accurately reproduce a variety of color spaces used by media workflows today, including sRGB, BT.601, BT.709,​ and even P3-ST.2084 (HDR).

    The same is true of your iPhone. 

     

    As to the reported mismatch, I hope we can still get to a solution for you. 

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    August 30, 2022

    Factory calibration assumes the monitor white point is the users adapted white, and there is no dual adaption.  In the OP's use case, he may be dual-adapted, (iPhone display white and backlight as well as the Display white point) After calibrating the iPhone to the Macbook display that may be reduced, but it may take a few rounds of adjustment.   Make sure that TrueTone is turned off in Display settings.  So far at least this setting is more experimental than useful.  Also, make sure the iPhone settings for TrueTone are turned off prior to any adjustment.    Just doing that may bring both displays to a closer match.  

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 30, 2022

    @Bob_Hallam wrote:

    Factory calibration assumes the monitor white point is the users adapted white, and there is no dual adaption. 


     "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."-Carl Sagan

     

    So now it's not untagged sRGB? Happy to see we are past that onto calibration assumptions that cause “images become quite dull, washed out, low contrast”. 😝

     

    Did you read what the OP started about True Tone, Night Shift???

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    August 29, 2022

    If your images have embedded profiles then the only way you can achieve your goal of a closer visual match on both devices is to make sure both display ms are profiles and both display profiles are used.  But this only provides a best possible match and everyone's results will vary.  That's normal in the wild where color managed workflows are few and far between 

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2022

    Both displays can be ideally calibrated and the untagged sRGB documents will preview identically. Because untagged documents are treated as sRGB. I'm not advocating untagged image data: ever

    The OPs issue has nothing to do with untagged images due to that fact and the fact one CAN NOT export untagged anything from Lightroom!

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2022

    @John Paul Decker wrote:

     

    Is this just due to the display capabilities on the new device? Do I really need to edit elsewhere in order to edit in a way that reflects how the images will look on most devices that people view content on?

    Looking for a solution to have the images I edit on my laptop look identical when I transfer them to a phone.


    You cannot control how others see your images on the web (or elsewhere). Yes, saving as sRGB is a good start but you have no control over others who may or may not be using color managed applications (without, sRGB is meaningless), if or how they calibrate their displays, etc. The best you can do is control your images on your end using color management. 
    See:

    sRGB urban legend & myths Part 2
    In this 17 minute video, I'll discuss some more sRGB misinformation and cover:
    When to use sRGB and what to expect on the web and mobile devices
    How sRGB doesn't insure a visual match without color management, how to check
    The downsides of an all sRGB workflow sRGB's color gamut vs. "professional" output devices
    The future of sRGB and wide gamut display technology
    Photo print labs that demand sRGB for output
    High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/sRGBMythsPart2.mp4
    Low resolution on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvVUL1gWV

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Bob_Hallam
    Legend
    August 29, 2022

    Have you embedded the sRGB profiles in each image?  If not do that and the color should be closer.  The problem here is that your monitor and your phone, more than likely do not have calibrated displays so there will be differences.  Having an embedded profil should reduce the problem but unless you want to calibrate both the difference will remain.  

    ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
    Participant
    August 29, 2022

    Hey Bob,

    Thanks for replying! How do you suggest I go about that once I have images edited in Lightroom Classic?

    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2022

    Anything you export from Lightroom Classic or Mobile will have an embedded profile so that's not the issue. 

    Untagged data in sRGB to an iPhone will be assumed to be in sRGB. Ditto on your Mac using say Photos. As long as the image data IS in sRGB, it doesn't have to be tagged but yeah, it should be. 

    Your iPhone (if version 6 or greater) is using a wide gamut display. As is your new Macbook. 

    So something else is going on here but it would be useful to see the Export dialog settings you use in Lightroom Classic. 

    On the iPhone, you're viewing the images where?

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"