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ChristianK-Fr
ChristianK-Fr
Inspiring
November 23, 2021
Question

Mistake with Adobe Stock images and InDesign - Profile mistake

  • November 23, 2021
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Hi all, 

I 'd like to understand what is wrong with this : 

Problem : when your InDesign document color setting is Adobe RGB 1998 for RGB, and you import Adobe Stock image ( images are in sRGB profile), it give a wrong profile to images (it give document profile), so when it convert to CMYK destination, it make wrong conversion, because it give wrong source information.

If you open image in Photoshop with preserve embedded profile ( sRGB), and made Save as new document, with embedded profile check ( so sRGB profile is the image profile), and you import this new image in InDesign, image have the right profile ( if you set the links panel with icc profile, you can see it).

This is my mistake I'd like to understand. Why original Adobe Stock image have issue when import in InDesign, sRGB profile image isn't assignate ?

You can see below screenshots explain how I made the test. 

Thanks for your help, 

Christian

 

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    NB, colourmanagement
    Community Expert
    NB, colourmanagementCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 23, 2021

    It does seem like the profile was missing, that’s not good.

    D.Fosse writes

    "If you source images from outside, you always need to check that there is an embedded profile, and if there isn't, assign the one that appears to be the correct one (or close enough)."

    that’s right, and it means (on a calibrated profiled display) go to edit / assign profile and try assigning, say Adobe RGB or sRGB, one of those will make their image look right, once it looks right its safe to assign that profile. 

     

    I really do wish that the days of supplied images without embedded ICC profiles were long gone, but it seems prehps that’s too much to wish for

     

    I hope this helps
    neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer
    google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management
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    ChristianK-Fr
    ChristianK-FrAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 24, 2021

    Thanks for your answer, but I think you misunderstood the issue : profile is in image. InDesign didn't see it.

    And of course I check, and it's because I scheck that I see these issue. Each answers are about missing profile but it's not that : profile is in image ! Make the test, download the image and tell me what's happen ;-)...

    Of course I could change the settings in InDesign and set working space RVB to sRGB, but it will be not resolve the issue/bug you see what I mean ? 

    Best Regards, 

    Christian

     

    ChristianK-Fr
    ChristianK-FrAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 24, 2021

    Hi ! 

    I check image with other tools, and effectively there's no profile embedded iin image, so InDesign give the document profile. So why when I open it in Photoshop it tell me there's a profile ? and same information in Adobe Bridge ?

     

     Thanks !

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    D FosseCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 23, 2021

    It's not your mistake. People failing to embed the profile is a ubiquitous problem, not specific to Adobe Stock. It happens everywhere.

     

    If you source images from outside, you always need to check that there is an embedded profile, and if there isn't, assign the one that appears to be the correct one (or close enough).

     

    Of course, Adobe Stock should enforce this as a strict requirement, I agree with that. Untagged images are always a problem.

      ChristianK-Fr
      ChristianK-FrAuthor
      Inspiring
      November 23, 2021

      Thanks for your answer, I'm agree with you, but look at the images, open with Bridge and see data : the ICC profile is tagged, that's my mistake....

      Why InDesign didn't see it ? Strange isn't it ?

      D Fosse
      Community Expert
      D FosseCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      November 23, 2021

      This is where you should check the profile in Photoshop:

       

      -or in Bridge:

       

      I frankly don't know what that entry in metadata under "raw data" refers to. It may well just be the setting in ACR as the file was originally opened.

      ChristianK-Fr
      ChristianK-FrAuthor
      Inspiring
      November 23, 2021

      Forget to upload finally the result after export PDF in CMYK : you can see difference in colors beetween import Adobe Stock image and save as new image : effectively, with wrong profile source information, conversion made wrong colors.

      Bob_Hallam
      Bob_Hallam
      Legend
      November 23, 2021

      A good rule of thumb for all stock photo sites unless otherwise stated these images are always in sRGB.  If for some reason you get one without an embedded profile I also look at the Colot Management settings to make sure they are set to preserve embedded profiles.    

      ICC programmer and developer, Photographer, artist and color management expert, Print standards and process expert.
      ChristianK-Fr
      ChristianK-FrAuthor
      Inspiring
      November 23, 2021

      Thanks for your answer, effectively I set my color management to preserve embedded profile, and that's my mistake, it didn't see the profile effectively embedded, I check information in Adobe Bridge. 

      Regards,

      Christian

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