ASP and Mac

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:09:41 +0000 (UTC), "RSXDriver"
<350z-obx@cox.net> wrote:

>One thing though, where can I download mysql for free. It cost a good amount of
>money on their website for the enterprise edition. That is the only one that I
>say. Is there another version for developing?

http://www.mysql.org/downloads/mysql/5.0.html

Scroll down towards the bottom (about 80% down the page) to get to the
Mac distributions.

Good luck.
--
Steve
steve at flyingtigerwebdesign dot com

One thing though, where can I download mysql for free. It cost a good amount of money on their website for the enterprise edition. That is the only one that I say. Is there another version for developing?

thank you very much for all of the info.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 02:59:20 +0000 (UTC), "RSXDriver"
<350z-obx@cox.net> wrote:

>well I am definitly not going back to pc. I love my mac so it looks like php is
>the way to go. Is MySQL expensive?

It is open source and can be downloaded for free.

>Can it handle more concurrent users than
>access; if you know how many. I think access was like 30 users. I will be
>looking at doing online stores.

Yes but the actual number depends on a number of server and database
parameters. I have read of 350 concurrent connections on some
systems.

>Are thre any books that you would recommend to
>learn the language? Thanks again for you time and your help

For PHP, I recommend you look here:

http://www.foundationphp.com

David Powers has written some excellent books. PHP for Dreamweaver 8
might be ideal for you.

Also, one of the standard texts is PHP and MySQL Development by Luke
Welling & Laura Thomson. Excellent coverage of the topic and not
limited to the use of Dreamweaver.

Another good start is Learning PHP5 by David Sklar.

For MySQL, the definitive books (IMHO) are those by Paul DuBois.
Michael Kofler's book is also excellent.
--
Steve
steve at flyingtigerwebdesign dot com

well I am definitly not going back to pc. I love my mac so it looks like php is the way to go. Is MySQL expensive? Can it handle more concurrent users than access; if you know how many. I think access was like 30 users. I will be looking at doing online stores. Are thre any books that you would recommend to learn the language? Thanks again for you time and your help

Julian Roberts wrote:
> if you want to take your ASP knowledge to any kind of level,
> then it'd be advisable to get a PC.

Not wishing to start a "my server model is better than yours" type of
argument, would you recommend anyone to embark on serious development
with ASP these days? Classic ASP is no longer being developed by
Microsoft. Yes, it's still in widespread use, but its days must be
numbered. Surely any serious development must now be switched to ASP.NET
(or a different server model, such as PHP, ColdFusion, JSP, Ruby on
Rails, etc).

--
David Powers, Adobe Community Expert
Author, "Foundation PHP for Dreamweaver 8" (friends of ED)
Author, "PHP Solutions" (friends of ED)
http://foundationphp.com/

It depends on how serious you are about ASP. If it's just a bit of fun, then
you could write the files on a MAC and then deploy the files to a Windows
server. But, if you want to take your ASP knowledge to any kind of level,
then it'd be advisable to get a PC.

--
Jules
http://www.charon.co.uk/charoncart
Charon Cart 3
Shopping Cart Extension for Dreamweaver MX/MX 2004

RSXDriver wrote:
> is php easy to learn. I watched a bunch of tutorials on asp and spent a lot of
> time on it. I know i could load windows on my mac, but I really dont want to.
> what kind of database software is available for mac? I guess SQL cannot be used
> because it is microsoft? what like access? Sorry for all of the questions, its
> like I have to learn all over again. But the mac is definitly worth it!

I think PHP is easy to learn. I started with ASP, but ran into so many
problems that I switched to PHP after about a year and never looked
back. The fundamental principles are the same: use of variables,
functions, strings, arrays, conditional control structures (if, if...
else, switch). So you should find the change quite straightforward. Yes,
things are different, but the underlying principles are the same.

The main database used with PHP is MySQL. The basic SQL syntax is the
same - it's an international standard. The two big differences are that
MySQL is a Ferrari in comparison to Access's Ford, but it doesn't come
with a glossy interface like Access. However, there are several useful
front-end interfaces to MySQL, such as the free phpMyAdmin, which most
hosting companies provide as standard with a PHP/MySQL setup.

ASP is obsolescent - Microsoft stopped development in favour of ASP.NET
several years ago. PHP and MySQL are in much wider use than classic ASP.
I would say that the real competition is now between ASP.NET and PHP.
You can't use ASP.NET on a Mac, so PHP seems the obvious route to go
unless you're prepared to switch back to Windows.

--
David Powers, Adobe Community Expert
Author, "Foundation PHP for Dreamweaver 8" (friends of ED)
Author, "PHP Solutions" (friends of ED)
http://foundationphp.com/

is php easy to learn. I watched a bunch of tutorials on asp and spent a lot of time on it. I know i could load windows on my mac, but I really dont want to. what kind of database software is available for mac? I guess SQL cannot be used because it is microsoft? what like access? Sorry for all of the questions, its like I have to learn all over again. But the mac is definitly worth it!

RSXDriver wrote:
> I just bought a Mac. I am developing with asp. Is there any server that can run the asp pages on the mac.

No. ASP is a Microsoft technology. It normally requires a Windows
server, although it can be run on other platforms using Sun Java Server
Active Server Pages:

http://www.sun.com/software/chilisoft/

However, the Sun server isn't supported on Mac OS X.

> If not what are my alternatives.

Use a remote server as the testing server.
Switch to PHP or ColdFusion, both of which are supported on a Mac.

--
David Powers, Adobe Community Expert
Author, "Foundation PHP for Dreamweaver 8" (friends of ED)
Author, "PHP Solutions" (friends of ED)
http://foundationphp.com/