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pziecina
pziecina
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January 12, 2017

Ben - I promise to start a new discussion regarding what is possible once IE9 is dropped, but I thought yourself and Os would be interested in this.

Googles Chromium browser, (pre-beta) now has css grid layouts enabled by default,  so only about 2-3 months before this happens in the stable, (release) version.

pziecina
pziecina
Legend
January 10, 2017

Just a thought here, and i do realise that the actual stable BS4, (I rememberd the abreviation Ben ) is unlikely to be released before the end of this year or early 2018, but it may be a good time for us to discuss what will then be possible, and would require support in Dw.

(not in this discussion though, unless it directly relates to BS4).

I am thinking of css such as animations, shapes (pollyfill will then work in all BS4 supported browsers), level 4 selectors, html 5.1 srcset/picture, base64, javascript api's, (eg animations api) etc. As there is no support for these as yet in Dw, and no Adobe program supports the usable creation of css animations or webGL, (to name just a few items).

This would also give those complaining, (rightly or wrongly, depending on who one asks) about what is missing in Dw, a place to have a say.

Preran​

I am not saying CC Animate does not support animations or webGL, just that it does so badly in my opinion, (if you would like coders opinions on why we think so, a discussion is a possibility).

Just one note though, if such discussions do happen, please everyone keep it civil, and remember the Dw dev team are not to blame if any suggestions are not incorporated into Dw, (they have their bosses also).

    O
    osgood_
    Legend
    January 10, 2017

    pziecina wrote:

    Just a thought here, and i do realise that the actual stable BS4, (I rememberd the abreviation Ben ) is unlikely to be released before the end of this year or early 2018, but it may be a good time for us to discuss what will then be possible, and would require support in Dw.

    css grid will probably be almost ready to deploy when BS4 is finally released as a production version, certainly before BS5 is.

    I get bored easily with current workflows, what should I be learning - Muse, Webflow or Wix?

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    January 10, 2017

    I could write you a list Os, but until the 'back room' removes my name as a spammer i don't want to post any links to articles or recommendations.

    I hope yourself and everyone else understands why.

    pziecina
    pziecina
    Legend
    January 9, 2017

    Hope this post does not cause problems for Madison, but could not resist this, (sorry Ben )

    Quote from the above link -

    "Bootstrap 4 is now flexbox by default! Flexbox is an immensely powerful layout tool, providing unparalleled flexibility (hah) and control to our grid system and core components."

    Flexbox rules, and about time

      O
      osgood_
      Legend
      January 9, 2017

      pziecina wrote:

      Hope this post does not cause problems for Madison, but could not resist this, (sorry Ben )

      Quote from the above link -

      "Bootstrap 4 is now flexbox by default! Flexbox is an immensely powerful layout tool, providing unparalleled flexibility (hah) and control to our grid system and core components."

      Flexbox rules, and about time

      I havent been using a float in my main constructions for the past 3/4 months and I'm a late comer to the Flexbox party - Bootstrap is entering when the party is over. Bootstrap the worlds most popular responsive framework and the worlds slowest uptake for advanced techniques framework.............

      pziecina
      pziecina
      Legend
      January 9, 2017

      The truth is Os, those who use frameworks will never really learn flexbox, (or css grids when that is fully usable).

      I'm just glad that Dw when it finally updates to Bootstrap 4, it will finally have something that uses flexbox, (for those designers that have not installed the PVII extension), and hopefully Dw will then have to offer better general support for flexbox than it currently does.

      Also I can then show bootstrap users how to do the same layout with less than 10% of the code.

        Nancy OShea
        Community Expert
        Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        January 8, 2017

        I foresee my Snippets folder getting a good workout soon. 

        Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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        osgood_
        Legend
        January 7, 2017

        Way behind the curve. By the time that reaches full release those ahead of the curve will have been using more advanced techniques to layout a responsive site for a couple of years and those behind the curve are still using float............phewwww.

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