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Design View Disappeared in CC 2014.1

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October 8, 2014
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When editing a site in "Managed Site" mode... ONLY the "LIVE" view button is available. When I edit a page that is not part of a "Managed Site", then the Design & Live view dropdown has both options. I still want "Design View" when editing a "Managed Site"

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eabernathy

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I know I have used Dreamweaver 2014 before and had it down, but now I am also operating on a crack pot Windows 8 so none of my right clicks work i.e. adding a row to a table, etc. is totally impossible short of hard coding. Even then, again, I am using Dreamweaver 2014 now, I am still getting these live view prompts. I am thinking maybe that I need to completely uninstall 2015 or both and then download 2014 and re-install. Something is definately off with my 2014 download as it is overwriting even my hard code settings. &)()(^*^^@!#*^%#~^)(~$*&^

HELLO ADOBE... I really like Photoshop, but you are out of your element with Dreamweaver. You are not a web design or web publishing company!!!

I would love to get back to my long lost Macromedia Dreamweaver. That was wonderful product.

Short of a computer crash, I would have on time and budget.

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

Reinstall older versions via the Creative Cloud Desktop App: How to Find and Install Previous Version of Adobe Apps in CC 2015 | Adobe Customer Care Team

You can have 4 total versions installed under a single subscription (DWCS6, DWCC, DWCC2014 and DWCC2015), they just won't run at the same time.

DWCC2015 has some major improvements over 2014, some of the changes have been a bit jarring for some people, but all in all, I think it's a stronger program. Fluid Grids appear to be on their way out, being given the "Legacy" title and having the much more powerful Bootstrap framework introduced (which does give you design view and the normal table editing features you're used to).

If you have to stay with FGLs, make sure to add the X as Nancy mentioned, to the .css file so you can get back to Design View via the Live/Design dropdown menu.

Overwriting of code is usually caused by code errors and code rewrite settings not getting along. If you have a specific example, it might be a good idea to start a new thread about it, there may be a simple solution.

eabernathy

Participant

This upgrade threw me into a rage. I was amidst deadlines and I couldn't use the design view. I can write html so I had it covered, short of that I had to install the 2014 version. Thanks to the link from Jon Fritz ll. Wow what is the world has gone wrong with Adobe!!!!

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

It's going to sound like a no-brainer now that you've been bitten by it, but you should have a second computer to test the latest and greatest Adobe products on before making any changes to your production machine.

It would appear that, possibly to rationalize a subscription delivery method and monthly payments into perpetuity, Adobe is going to be making "larger changes, faster" than they had in the past. Paying the up-front cost to have a second box to test the programs on will ultimately have far less affect on your bottom line than wasting an untold number of billable hours trying to find workarounds for changes that crop up after various updates throughout the year.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Or do what I do and avoid upgrades until you have some time to properly assess the new product & its potential impact on your workflow. Looming deadlines take priority over everything else. Upgrades can wait. Your under no obligation to install Creative Cloud updates/upgrades until you're ready for them.

Nancy O.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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Manservanthecubus

Participant

I may have stumbled across a work-around. We use a fluid media CSS for our responsive sites. I moved the CSS out of the local file structure and relinked the CSS using an absolute link. I updated the CSS link in my HTML page, saved the page, and reopened it. I was then able to use the Design View.

This did not allow access to Design View:

This allowed access to the Design View:

I hope this works for some of you that are as frustrated as I am/was.

John

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

The other workaround is to put an X in the FluidGrid.css file (whatever you named it).

	Dreamweaver Fluid Grid Properties
	----------------------------------
	dw-num-cols-mobile:	X 4;
	dw-num-cols-tablet:	8;
	dw-num-cols-desktop:	12;
	dw-gutter-percentage:	25;

=====================================

This tricks DW CC into thinking it's a normal layout.

Nancy O.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Claire_a_bradshaw

Known Participant

Ha ha - sorry Adobe; but you want people to roll BACK to an older version of your software in order to use components they want to use? But what about fixes/bugs/updates included in the rollout that will now not be included?

I'm following this video tutorial on helpx.adobe.com - yes your own website - about the new fluid grid layouts as I've been away from Dreamweaver for a while.

https://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/how-to/dreamweaver-new-fluid-grid-layouts.html

In the video, it has Code | Split | Design | Live in the menu. I followed the authors commands to the word to ensure I was doing this correctly and Design does not appear. I am a coder so prefer to see the code than use Design Views but being new to the CC world and all the new changes I am following your own tutorial to make sure I'm up to speed. But it's impossible to follow it correctly with this functionality removed.

We've installed Creative Cloud and in the past month we've had to roll back 3 products to their previous version in order to Recover functionality that we require or is needed in other Adobe products (FLV output for example).

It is poor business practice for a company to ask its users to go back to an older version. How long would BMW or Audi sell new cars if they stopped producing manual gear shift in future cars and told their customers "If you want manual shift, go and buy an old Audi/BMW"? You're asking us to do the same thing.

If it is not broken, don't try to fix it. At least give us the option to include the Design View back in to the latest version WITHOUT having to rollback to out dated software.

thanks

Frank

Stevefas

Participating Frequently

I use Design View all the time in my workflow (I only create FG sites). DW CC2014 operates very fast while I update/maintain these sites with content. I just can't seem to move through site/page editing with any efficiency using Dreamweaver CC 2015 today. It is still slow, repetitive, and cumbersome.

So, ironically, I rarely use Design View to design, but to update and enter content. I was really hoping some version of a design view would be brought back in the 2015 version, but guess not.

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

Design View is gone for Fluid Grid Layouts but it appears that they're phasing out FGLs in favor of Bootstrap. You'll notice if you try to create a new FGL in CC 2015, it now calls them "Legacy Fluid Grid Layouts" and nudges you toward the built in Bootstrap capabilities which are much more powerful than FGL (and hopefully, less glitchy).

While working in Bootstrap, both Live and Design Views are available.

deletethisaccountnofee

Known Participant

try creating an email newsletter -- you'll find yourself using old HTML software if you want to get it done properly.

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grixit

Participant

I am having the same problem. I am taking an online class that follows the textbook "Dreamweaver Revealed" pretty closely. I'm frustrated to the point of tears over this. Right now i'm trying to create a hotspot in chapter 5, but, oops, no Design View. Live View is no help, it does not give me the hotspot tools, nor the ability to work visually. I'm going to try removing those lines and see if it will help, but even if it does, this is unacceptable in a program this expensive.

FIX IT!

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Design view hasn't been removed except in FGLayouts. So don't use FGLayouts for your assignments. Instead, go to File > New > Blank page > HTML. Select a starter Layout from the 3rd panel and hit Create button. Voila! Design View is again available for making image map hotspots.

Nancy O.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

samwainford

Participant

I'm having the same problem in numerous situations. Adobe really needs to stop changing the tried and true interface elements - not to mention all the bugs that don't get worked out before the changes are pushed out. These continual, progressive updates that remove or move tools around make it impossible to follow tutorials on the web or in textbooks. Academic publishers are going to give up on Adobe as their books are outdated as soon as or before they are published due to these continual changes.

Jon Fritz

Community Expert

I suggest rolling back to CC 2014 (June release), prior to the removal of Design View in FGLs, at least until Adobe gives Live View all of the editing capability of Design View (which seems to be what they're working on according to a few Adobe rep's postings).

Here are the direct download links for CC 2014.0...

PC: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dreamweaver/win/cc/Dreamweaver_14_LS20.exe

Mac: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dreamweaver/mac/cc/Dreamweaver_14_LS20.dmg

You can roll further back through the Creative Cloud desktop app if you like, to DWCS6 or DWCC by clicking the Apps tab, then the Filters & Previous Versions link. That will turn the program install icons into dropdown menus with the older versions. DWCS6, DWCC and DWCC 2014.0 or 2014.1 (you only get one or the other with CC 2014) can all be installed at the same time on the same machine, they just won't run at the same time.

That should keep you working until Adobe gets the next release out, hopefully with all the functionality needed.

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ChrisFrance

Participant

Thank you very much to all for your ideas and advice, and espacially to Jon, — but getting back to the previous version is kind of a disaster for the Adobe marketing team, never though of pre-testing, guys ?

Happy Dave

Participant

I have the same problem and some add-ons do not work now as they require design view no live view. not impressed adobe please provide the button to switch to design view

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SteveSaiki

Participant

I could have solved the problem.

Find your css file and find the "Dreamweaver fluid grid propaty",
and delete　those lines.

In my case I deleted these 4 lines.
dw-num-cols-mobile:16;
dw-num-cols-tablet:24;
dw-num-cols-desktop:24;
dw-gutter-percentage:25;

Then open the html file, and you can switch to the "Design View".

TGIF

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fwhiltonAuthor

Inspiring

WOW... it worked!

Okay, is that removed code going to be issue if I want to make changes to the fluid grid properties?

I noticed that that block is commented out.

How else can I leave that there and just turn it on or off?

Thanks for such an easy workaround!

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tdoebw

Participant

I was working with support on this issue this morning and learned that in this release, Design View is not available for pages with Fluid Grid layouts. Support told me that this is an intentional feature as they move to phase out Design View altogether and have everything happen in Live View.

For my site, if I create a new page from a template file (a fluid grid layout), Design View is available, but as soon as I save, close, and reopen the file, Design View is gone.

But yes, it is unnecessarily complicated to make basic page edits in Live View, so I've reverted back to the previous version.

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fwhiltonAuthor

Inspiring

Are you kidding me!!!

That would be okay if the stupid Live View worked.

I don't see the point in going back to old versions, then why would I have the Cloud service.

Boy, that makes me mad,

Devendra Kumar

Participating Frequently

Hi,

This is something expected in new CC 2014.1. In the responsive design (fluid grid) design view will not be available.

Please check the following article

http://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/using/whats-new.html#Changes to fluid grid documents

Still you want the old version of CC 2014 , you can download from here Installing the latest update of Dreamweaver CC 2014

Regards,

Devendra

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