Dreamweaver vs Bubble.is

wwashington0001  wrote Forgot to say that I did see people saying that Bubble.is is also being used in education as well.  Its being used to teach coding students the logic of the backend of apps.  So that is the other niche that Bubble.is has as well, which is different that Wappler/Dreamweaver too.

I would disregard education, paid for or otherwise, but especially paid for. When has any education establishments actually employed anyone in tech that knows what they are doing. If they are putting forward Bubble.is as a serious way of hoping to get a career in web-development well the whole world is much more deluded that I originally thought.

wwashington0001  wrote Wappler/Dreamweaver being for those with a stronger coding background than Bubble.is.

Actually Wappler is specifically also aimed at non-coders, more like Bubble.is, the amatuer market. Those that really only tap into web-development infrequently as it's not their main job, although a minority of full-time developers, use both applications.

I would only recommend both solutions to those specfic categories, not those who want to pursue web-development to a serious level.

wwashington0001  wrote There are 3rd party developers developing apps for clients on Bubble, however what I'm seeing Bubble really being recommended for more, from people in the industry is for entrepreneurs building businesses and need an app to help execute the overall business they are trying to build. I'm seeing that Entrepreneurship Bootcamps are saying, "use this product (Bubble.is) to build your app and get your business going, let Bubble do all the management and maintenance for the app while you operate the business and make money, then down the road when it makes sense, make that decision if your business needs to hire in house developers or hire a 3rd party developer for the future of your app".  I'm seeing that they are saying this is the real niche for the Bubble.is platform. And judging by reviews from such bootcamps, Bubble.is is being quite successful at it..... with some choosing to move to a 3rd party developer but some choosing to stay on Bubble.

Yes, I think that's a fair overview. Most 'entrepreneurs' will go bust within 6 months. It's like everyone, plus grannie, has a business idea these days to get rich quickly but don't want to pay out much money to realise their usually lousy idea - as I say the majority will wilt and vanish within a few months.

wwashington0001  wrote In regards to the code and exporting everything..... Bubble.is platform uses CoffeeScript and runs on Node.js..... The founders of it says that you can export the design of the pages but the one thing that'll need to be rebuilt when  you export is the application logic.  He goes on and says their goal however is to have Bubble.is grow with your app via your use of javascript  and API's. He even said you can integrate with GitHub to grab code and use in your app. So with that last bit they are pushing some coding experience with javascript. The founder actually says that Bubble.is was built to serve the same market as Wappler (much newer than Bubble is) and said they both have drag-and-drop but also have the coding element to it. He says the approach of hosting it on your own servers vs letting the platform host it differently is the main difference, says they chose the hosting method because it allowed them to create much simpler approach to the back-end application logic and database. They also acknowledge that larger tech firms have looked into Bubble.is approach as well.  Lastly they say that Bubble.is platform is licensed in a way that if the actual company does go out of business that the platform and the back-end code becomes open sourced under the GNU General Public License.

Both solutions use some niche coding workflows, so buyer/client beware (especially client). You may struggle to find anyone experienced in such niche workflows if the situation changes. 

wwashington0001  wrote With all of that said I myself and some others in the Bubble Community have found Wappler very intriguing and have started to try it out.  The main things that are pulling us to check out Wappler is #1 I can host the app on my own servers, and #2 I can use it to develop native mobile apps without using a 3rd party product.  With Bubble.is it does great in developing progressive web apps, but if I need to develop a native mobile app as well then the go to by their community is DropSource while still using Bubble.is as the backend,  they say you can use Phone Gap as well but they say there is much more maintenance when updates happen. With Wappler I got just 1 platform to use without the switching....

There's no harm in trying any application to see if it suits your requirements, so long as someone provides you with an honest assessment, which you wont get on either native forum.

I'll never try it.  Sounds like a nightmare, to me.

wwashington0001​, it may take some time to learn to code (assuming you don't already), but the effort is TOTALLY worth it.  Learn HTML5, CSS, JavaScript/jQuery, and some kind of server-side language like ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, etc.  Then you can use DreamWeaver, or Brackets, or NotePad++, or just about any 'real' IDE.  Don't use some drag-n-drop, cookie-cutter online service.

Just my honest opinion.

V/r,

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